lori nathan, who is a war mediator.the end of season four when saul berenson was captured by a terrorist, played by an actor who is a beautiful human being, but at the end of it, saul berenson was going to be traded, as it happened here, for four or five known terrorists who would go out and do more harm. he would rather take his own life. kill me before you let someone else go out there and heard someone else. -- hurt someone else. he had certainly suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder. i woke up, just as we finished shooting and i wrote this one and a half page feeling that saul had about where he was it at. was very dark. very angry. very revengeful. the polar opposite of what i had been saying. he wanted to annihilate all of these people who have been doing harm, but also including people like dick cheney, donald rumsfeld, not just known terrorists, but people who don't do good. and i read it to lori nathan at dinner. i said to him, i just met him. my wife took me to this dinner. i didn't want to go. i was re

and i read it to lori nathan at dinner. and i said to him, i had just met him. my wife took me to this dinner. i didn't want to go i went and was ready to leave after a couple of hours and then this conversation started. i will back up a little bit to the conversation at the dinner the day before. and he was talking about the middle east. and he said i don't think there's going to be peace in my lifetime. i said really. or our children's lifetime. i said really. >> yeah. i said it was right when the gaza war was happening 50rbgs day war, a horrible time. every day i was looking at robin island because we were filming in capeton. and looking at where mandela lived for all those years. i said lori, are we all fools? all of us who work for peace? who work for these organizations like jewish voices for peace and peace now and the abraham fund, all these organizations that try to make peace in the middle east, are we fools? he said absolutely not. he said that it's imperative that every organization continues that effort for peace because when the opportunity comes,

nathan at it to lori dinner. -- iconversation started will back up a little bit to the conversation at the dinner the day before. he was talking about the middle east and he said i don't think there is going to be peace in my lifetime. i said really. or our children's lifetime. really. right when the gaza war was happening. it was a horrible time. and every day i was looking at an island from my window, it was where mandela lived for all those years. all fools,, are we who work for peace, who work for these organizations? these organizations that try to make peace in the middle east and all over the world, are we fools? he said absolutely not. he said it's imperative that every organization continues that effort toward peace because when the opportunity comes, the window cracks open for a mere second, and if you are not ready, like in this country. no one expected mandela to get out of prison let alone become president. but the world's pressure, the world's sanctions and attention toward this difficult situation , and then mandela was brought out of prison and for 25 years the world ch