lori thomas, the owner of two restaurants in restaurants joining us now. thank you for request your time. >> thank you for having me. >> how many restaurants does the association represent? >> roughly 800 right now but really this year we've opened it up to everybody. so we've waved the dues. we rep anybody that needs help right now. >> the 800 restaurants or so, what is the reaction, generally, to the no more outdoor dining again? >> well, everybody's update, as you can imagine, again at a devastating time of year. we left hand to the goirp yesterday and thought we had another week or two before we might be moving closer to the criteria he announced. >> and isn't december the busiest time of year typically with holiday parties and such? >> usually it is. up know this year because we couldn't do any private parties of more than six, that we were going to see drop in business due to that, normally we would book out the restaurants or our private dining rooms, so we were already anticipating a drop because of that but yeah, this is a devastating time of year