us to be the masters of our own destiny they want that power for themselves now for more on the lori wallach joins me from auckland new zealand for the d.p.p. talks are underway she's the director of public citizens global trade watch laurie welcome back. thank you very much thanks for joining us first off what exactly is taking place and awkward. this is the fifteenth round of negotiations on the trans-pacific partnership ironically thing how they. know which is where the convention center is and behind closed doors negotiation eleven countries are rushing to try and finish the agreement before the public and then to countries where they get to know what at stake why why auckland new zealand i've noticed a lot of the libertarians who come on our shows or. seem to think that new zealand has turned into some kind of libertarian paradise the last time i looked they had a national health care system and what not but is there some particular rationale for. the negotiations rotate between the different countries where a party and this particular round of volunteers to host. their one of the pacif