and george horace lorimer saw as his mandate the idea of unifying an america that was, at that point, 70 p--at the turn of the century, 70 percent of the children in new york city had foreign-born parents, that--which is an extraordinary figure. so lorimer saw--believed and some people later accused him of isolationism as a result--that we ought to have a magazine that showed us what it was to unify and be a national consciousness. it wasn't that long after the civil war, don't forget, when you really think about it. c-span: three hundred and how many covers? >> guest: three hundred twenty-two. c-span: how many--how often was that consecutive weeks? >> guest: not often. i think the most he ever did in one year was 11. c-span: were they controversial ever? >> guest: hm. i don't remember the covers ever being controversial. the--the--i remember the--the civil war piece -- the civil war, excuse me--the civil rights pieces in the '60s were. and--and then he became--he--he actually helped out core, which was a radical left racial rights group in new york city. that was a bit controversial.