. >> how much money are you spending on us if and howuch money are we losi?hope you're sting dow buas of the last 12 year this yar we have lost abillio lls in food servicend amtrak. over $72 million in losses. now, we learn that are paying for a gourmet chef nclave tt is held evey year. gerri: so a culiary aisory committejustcks my socks offpaying for three gourmet chefs to design these mea here we go, i'm not against big food, i love good food. i just don't want to pay for amtrak's loss. what should happenhere? >> well, ven if these are only advisory people, we have o find out howhis works. this fd is served on these long-distanceroutes. over thelast year, the losses ve ncreased. this is underwriting evy cket byover $400. so the losses are huge amount. this comes down hen we are debating ithe florida ouse. >> congressman, you said you don't know w what we are paying. how can we not know the answer that question? >> wdo kw that in testimony to estimate their losses lat year at $72 million. we do not know about ts gourmet chef conclave. thadvice may be free, b

professor monty thinks the attorney general has overs that end not so muchdereliction of duty, but losiexplain whyou have to go. >> both have a lack of judgment. this is not his first scandal. several have you'd eric holder is a bit of a menace when it comes to bas rights. he was a guy who defended the policy of president obama. the media verlooks things for the protection of liberty. but you did hear what the administration did here. what they did was have a comprehensive attack on the free press. their defense raises even greater concerns about the commitment of first amendnt values. they have argued that as long as they don't prosete someone like james rosen, it is really not a right repressed. which is really bizarre. we have a fourth amendment that protects against unlawfuu searches. it doesn't mean that they haven't invaded their privacy or violated the fourth amendment. what is most disturbing here is for peopto once again be part of this administration. ericholder shld go. i do not know what is worse. the fact that he knew nothing about this or if he or something. either way, he

tea party group but a conservative organization and they were pick up in this dragnet and ended up losi of $30,000. that there's rea damages here and then of course there's the getting the governme to stop because despite protests to the contrary, jay carney's statementso thecontra, the reality on may 26 of 2013 we received another letter fr one of our clients with ridiculous questions. the process has not stopped and we need get the government to correct itself and without a court order they're not capable of doing. >> jay, thanks for joining us. the ranks need to follow the right organization toward some satisfaction or justice against the irs and the federal government. >> google facebook, do they with the spark cash card from capital one... boris earns unlimited rewards for his small business. can i get the smith contract, ease? thank you. that's three new paper shredders. [ boriri] put 'em on my sparcard. [ garth ] boris' small business earns 2% cash back on every pchase every day. great businesses deserve unlimited rewards. read back the chicken's testimony, please. "buk, buk, buk

now, instead of folks losi homes to foreclosure, they buy it an cut the loan principle to match the current pay the local government. is it legal? with us now the attorney dwien case, and liz weil. dwyaneings you say the point is there needs to be a way to force lenders to make decisions that are good for them. tell mewhat you mean by that. >> well, you know, some of the lenders, some of the hings are in a trust, and they can't write them back by law. if they follow the trust, they couldn't do it. there's got to be a way. they want to in a lot of cases write it back, and they can't it on their own so there needs to be a mechanism, and this just seems like a way to it. number one, the government started this mes and we have given -- rri: forcedd the finger of a ot of people, my friend. >> i have to become very clear with you, i don't like imminent domain, full disclosure because generally the federal government comes in and takes your land, your property, your mall, whatever it is, because the need to build a road or do something, and they don't compensate you. gerri: it's the local governme