decision-making process and also the current justice department officially apologized to the groups for lothe irs targeting and completely reaching an opposite conclusion of the justice department on -- i am wondering what you make of that decision? >> with regard to arpaio, the case that was -- the presidents powers to pardon is absolute. and you know, i cannot criticize the process. it was ultimately the presence decision. i think it is instructive that the power that is used relatively sparingly was used by this president to grant some relief to a person i think it is fundamentally undeserving of it. the case that we brought wther was appropriate. the front of the court with regards to how arpaio conducted himself during a portion of the process was appropriate. i think it was a misuse of the pardon process in that regard. the apology when it comes to irs. it is kind of typical of what we see in this administration unfortunately. not giving support to people in the department. any investigative agencies within the department. we simply do a good job.and would make tough calls. and sometimes th