>> seventh and loton. >> [inaudible] >> oh the sota site. >> [inaudible] >> i think seventh and loton actually could accommodate -- >> about 120. okay. >> yes. >> and i mean i know when this comes up we sort of talk about the neighborhood opposition to this, but it does seem like given -- i mean what is happening in the city right now and just the that there does seem to be so much agreement on the need to build more housing whether it's market rate, affordable -- a mix. people disagree what it should be but everyone agrees we're not building enough housing in the city but this seems to me that we have a responsibility to really explore. i mean both as a board of supervisors, as the board of education to really say this is a prime site in a prime neighborhood, residential neighborhood near transit. it just would make sense that we move on that. >> and i couldn't agree more, and it's interesting every single time we have a hearing that mentions the word "surplus property" this is the only time that 14 neighbors haven't come out that their desire is this to remain public open space fore

>> seventh and loton. >> [inaudible] >> oh the sota site. >> [inaudible] >> i think seventh and loton actually could accommodate -- >> about 120. okay. >> yes. >> and i mean i know when this comes up we sort of talk about the neighborhood opposition to this, but it does seem like given -- i mean what is happening in the city right now and just the that there does seem to be so much agreement on the need to build more housing whether it's market rate, affordable -- a mix. people disagree what it should e

and that gives you a aerial photo of the lot at seventh and loton. if you go forward if we successful make the property exchange with mo for the three parcels i described we will actually own a really large parcel at the heart of civic center both on mccallister and franklin and now the parking lot. it would be great if we were able to purchase the site that was a boys and girls club. that wasn't an option for us. we know that lot has very high value, both as a parcel -- [inaudible] should we want to at some point in time tear everything down and build a new, and we also know that the lot behind 555 franklin has several potential key uses and one is to maintain parking either grade below or on grade and build, up to eight stories which theoretically if we were to construct the school of the arts on 135 van ness we need a new home for the business finance budget prop h offices. we could build an ad min center above. we could also do that plus three floors of housing, and we could strictly do housing so i think there's a wide range of options there and

i just want to make sure we're going to be able to accommodate and seventh and loton and swap it out with someone to buy property in a place where we really do need to build a school, so i think that i really -- until we sort of get a projection on it i feel like we really can't move on very much yet because we don't know it -- supervisor kim i was going to request at one of the next meetings that we look at the latest demographic and the projections for san francisco and where the building is going to be and also about hope sf how many family units, how many two bedroom units? are they affordable? we can almost assume that low income and affordable housing units -- those children will attend our schools for sure so it will give an idea of what the future population is in that area. >> right. and the demographers [inaudible] o'keefe is heading up that enterprise. they have a good presentation. they're skilled and thoughtful people. i think they will give a lot of information. >> and does the city and county of san francisco have that same demographic information and maybe we can do t

we only own two sites with no buildings on it, seventh and loton and on connecticut so part of the messe that the school district is trying to get out to the community, particularly for instance from charter schools who think we have an abundance of empty buildings we actually have vibrant school communities in the buildings and even if the population of those schools is lower we have expanding special needs, expanding child care, we have pre-k and programs filling up these classrooms. for those of you that ausknow the education code makes it hard to sell school property and that's on proper because in the 50's and the 60's school boards popped up and we can have a fire sale and raise money and send it on whatever we want and no one knew what happened and those people were voted out of office so the education code changed the way you can sell property. they make you go through an incredibly elaborate process to identify surplus to have a committee hear that, to go to the community and hear public comment and have the school board declare what is surplus and what is not and there are defi