then you've got lou gossett jr. then there's henry winkler. tell me, is an organization like the nra on the right track when they're more frightened of the fonz than of firearms? >> it's all messed up. it better be scared of lou gossett jr. and leonard nimoy, he's just out of this world. the reality is this. the nra is focusing on minutia. what jesus said in the bible, you're schoeking on the small stuff and swallowing whole hogs so to speak. the big stuff here. i think the nra has to come to its senses. being obsessed with the list it puts out. the blacklist of the people who don't comport with them or go along with their values is nonsense. we are all americans. we are just upset with the way things are going. we are fed up with this. the billions of dollars made by the gun industry should be more than enough compensation for sacrificing just a little. not of its rights but of its responsibility to make sure those who have the guns are acting responsibly and we don't have in the hands of criminals machinery and weaponry that will outmatch or