. >> how did you manage to get with people like lou rawlses and bb king and go around the world witheople? >> well, at the time there was a club owned by don barksdale, and he had the showcase and the sportsman, and he would have like bobby's club and lou rawlses at the other. and playing at the showcase at that time, i got to play with everybody that was big, you know. and they called it the circuit, but coming from vallajo, i thought i was in band heaven. i mean i got to play with and talk with the greatest r&b entertainers in the world. i mean, it doesn't get much better than that etta james and lou rawls, arthur price, bernie andrews, charles musselwhite, he played on a record with him. so it was great for me. >> the travels, i've heard you say that one of the most difficult things about being a musician is the travels. >> yeah. i like to go to bed in my own bed, you know. and i had at the time i had two kids and i'll never forget i played a theater in chicago, and i got to meet some of the members of the band with lloyd price and. >> another legend. >> so some of those musicians