and you will look in vain for king is standing next to him, he was being held in a hotel room by lou stokes who became a well-known congressman, wonderful human being. i met lou many times but carl didn't want martin luther king there to cause alienation as he started his, what he was going to do and cleveland elected somebody on a tuesday and the following monday they were in office . he didn't have time to do anything, he just did it but this is the victory of carl stokes incleveland. martin luther king was not happy about this so this is a short clip, this is the day after stokes wins . and you would think this would be a very happy day for martin luther king but he's very unhappy. in fact, coretta scott king told ebony magazine this was the greatest job of his life, not to be included in the celebration. >> watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> .. >> i work for maureen dowd. >> nice to see you. you're on my show tomorrow

. >> lou stokes was chairman during your first term. what are your memories of his leadership of the committee? >> just a wonderful man. just a wonderful, wonderful man. he took time with me. definitely took time with me. >> you chaired one of the subcommittees. how would you describe your leadership style? >> i always enjoyed being a leader, and i think that's where you see the way i went in congress. i was in high school, and my senior year, i was president of the student government, and i was vice president of the class, and i played christ in the easter play, and i figured i'd peaked, you know? and so i like leadership. i really did. so, i was -- when they expanded the whip after the tom foley became speaker and a lot of people were very unhappy with -- we had a horrible time over jim wright. it was very sad. and then tom came in, and members demanded that leadership be opened, and he appointed three whips at the beginning and then there was four whips, and a woman, an african-american, and a southerner, butler derek. we never forge

started nearly a half century ago by mayor carl stokes, continued by -- continued by his brother lou stokes and stephanie tubbs jones, carried on today by my friend, congresswoman marcia fudge. a reminder, this historic connection between the civil rights movement and our labor movement. both are movements for justice. they are about treating americans no matter -- treating americans no matter whether you work in a hospital, whether you punch a clock, whether you work construction, whether you are an hourly wage worker, whether you work for tips, treating all americans with dignity and respect. this morning, i met with a group of firefighters, several of them retired, union firefighters and fire chiefs in shaker heights, lakewood, and cleveland. all of whom talked to me about how firefighting -- we know that when -- when there is a fire, firefighters rush into danger while all of us as civilians flee and rush out. what we don't think about enough and we know the dangers of those jobs, a collapsing roof or a walking -- floor falling in. what we don't think enough about is the chemicals they

lou. we are firmly under the impression that our western partners a stoking hysteria around it live and in any case are attempting to prevent the fall of the last major terrorist stronghold in syria and this is far more political than the stated humanitarian concerns for the protection of civilians now it has to be mentioned that according to the un special envoy to syria to fund a mistura the assad government does have access to chemical weapons just like does the predominant action in syria but when it comes to this northern province well the leaders of russia iran and turkey sat down here in tehran on friday right before the u.n. security council meeting and they discussed the focus on the situation there and what they mostly talked about is how to get rid of terrorists there while this area is so densely populated by the civilians because they agree that the syrian land should be cleared of terrorists but it just the conscious bomb. can't just blindly bomb them in the area because the front would use civilians as a human shield. everyone knows that there are a lot of civilians in there

fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record, and revenge on behalf of the clintons and millions of dollars from outside opposition groups. lou: joining us, gregg jarrett and charlie kirk. there it is. there it is, you can quote them yourself later in the segment. charlie, this was a magnificent day, i thought, for the american people. they got to see what the judiciary committee has become, what its failed leadership is doing to the process and what the radical dimms are willing to do to a great american, a great jurist and to his family. unconscionable. >> absolutely. credit needs to be given to chairman grassley. when you are in the united states senate you don't get called out very often to your face on television. when brett kavanaugh unleashed that ferocious broadside defending his family, his good name, his wife and daughters, saying you will not scare me out of this. i will not quit. you might kill me, but you won't make me quit. that was powerful stuff. lou: for just a moment, i actually thought i saw some dimms holding their heads. >> i think without a doubt. the line of questioning changed dramatically. that's why