lou wallace's di strivision wou have gone up to savannah and crossed over. i think if grant's army had been captured. i don't think it would lead to the north, suing for peace as so many people have said. i mean they would have still, the confederates would still have to confront buehl the next day. i would remind everyone that, the south lost an entire field army at vicksburg and they did not sue for peace. they simply kempt on fighting. so did it present a trap? maybe. even if there had been an overwhelming victory. i suspect that the north could have rebounded from that. >> okay. i might also in commenting, following up on that. think about how -- that -- that the -- well, relative to being on the west bank of the tennessee with their backs to a river, nevertheless the union army -- which i think supports what you are saying, larry -- is well protected on its flanks by these swollen streams. and -- it really -- limits what the -- what at taking army is able to do with that situation. i'm not frying to say that -- that determines the outcome of the battle.