congressman barry loudermilk is the chairman of this effort. for my own background when the trump administration steps and their need to be a federal grand jury that looks into the potential violation of federal laws this is no joke. trying to instigate criminal investigations we have two people steve bana and peter navarro who action to federal prison as a result do you agree? we've been asked all along as we uncovered things when you have uncovered this so well. my response is always been it's really an executive branch i would never trust this department of justice to hand out equally. they've proven they will not. but now we are moving into a new era with the trump department of justice they can move forward with this. that is why we made a recommendation that the department of justice to investigate liz at cheney for potential violation of federal law. i am only using liz's own standards that she used for if you go back to july of 2022, and one of their televised hearings liz cheney started talking about donald trump making a phone call to

representative loudermilk's tour was a participant who came to the ellipse rally and ended up at the capitol, was not a charged rioter, the person to whom he gave a tour, and this constituent did take some photographs in the office buildings, but we never concluded representative loudermilk did anything to aid an insurrection. that said, the focus on him, yes, was unusual and was different from other members of congress. he then is the person who is the chairman of the subcommittee on administration that is investigating the investigators and i have to say reading his report, there is absolutely no basis for the very serious allegations he makes against ms. cheney, against chairman thompson and the committee. this notion of destroying records is a complete fabrication. every official report of the select committee was maintained. the videos of witness interviews are not the official record. the official record of those interviews is the transcript. those were all maintained. a handful of those involved national security officials, secret service agents, aides in very sensitive positi

let's talk about congressman loudermilk and what he has done.so may have a degree of something personal involved. wasn't he also investigated for his office for conduct that included folks and visitors to his office taking some strange photos and touring? do i have that right? >> yes, nicolle, you are exactly right. perhaps. i always hesitate to describe undue motivation to any public server and without evidence. it is certainly true that for a period of time, the select committee focused on a tour that representative loudermilk gave to some constituents, who ended up at the capitol the next day. if you recall, there was some allegation early on there had been members of congress that gave tours to rioters, that somehow were involved in collusion or conspiracy to help people prepare for an insurrection. candidly, we did not find evidence of that, of explicit agreement between members of congress and rioters, surveillance or towards that gave rise to that conductivity. we looked at it and we did not reach those conclusions that was said so. yes,

you served with barry loudermilk. and liz cheney and liz cheney and matt gaetz. >> and what do you what do you see this as a legitimate report, this letter? no, i haven't read the report. but a couple of things. article one, section six of the u.s. constitution protects members of congress from criminal and civil cases. she was doing her job. this was a liz cheney. this was a select committee. it was approved by the house. they had lots of witnesses. i mean, it's part of the routine. i mean, if you you can't really i mean, this this would be unconstitutional, probably to go against her. the second thing is, and i'm not a lawyer, but if this did go so that she has to be a defendant, think of the people that she could call that refused to testify before the select committee. kevin mccarthy. what what about that line the president allegedly called you and said, i guess they care more about the election than you do. kevin, on january 6th, all of that. i mean, i mean, this is a can of worms that i don't think really anybod

>> reporter: this report with loudermilk who put together this report, they are close allies and loudermilkines of calling into question the january 6th select committee's existence and the evidence that it put forward in its final report and has been on the front lines of suggesting that some of the records were illegally destroyed, were his words. there's a lot of layers to this. of course liz chaney has consistently contended she did not interfere or was responsible in any way for cassidy hutchinson leaving her counsel and replacing her counsel and that as a member of congress it was her prerogative of that committee of which other republicans chose not to be a part of to ultimately discard or not archive the materials and notes that ultimately were not imperative to the public report that was ultimately disseminated and put out. loudermilk in this report here is suggesting that she should be criminally investigated, and donald trump overnight in a social media post at 3:30 in the morning, suggesting she has potentially committed federal crimes and should be wholly investigated by the ne

one member, loudermilk, going as far as to claim the committees work with witnesses was some kind ofossible federal crime. the language is that federal laws were quote likely broken by liz cheney. that is the allegation. and this is a playbook that predates trump. republicans have long used congress to try to push or launder pressure in separate parts of the government. the executive branch, fbi, doj, some of the efforts seem to get traction. remember, whatever went thinks of james comey, and he has critics across the spectrum. it was republican pressure against him and demands that he brief them on the things that they said it needed even more investigation relating to hillary clinton's emails and other matters, and demanding those probes that led komi to be writing letters back. some of those you may remember were a big issue in 2016. the history of that was republicans pushing the fbi. just as they demanded investigations of even sometimes mid and low level officials who worked for president bill clinton. if you go back that far. other times these efforts flounder. there were many

representative loudermilk's tour was of a constituent who came to congress and he gave a tour of theoffice buildings, but we never concluded that congressman loudermilk never did anything to aid in the insurrection. but the focus with him was different than other people in congress, and so he was the chairman of the person who was investigating the investigator, and reading his report, there was no basis for the very serious allegations that he mak the committee, and other records, because the official record was the transcript, and a number of those involved secret service members and aides of the trump and biden white house, and our access to them said that we could not make the interviews public, and we had to return them, and congressman loudermilk ultimately got those himself, and so there has been no hiding of the information and the accusations of ms. cheney witness tamper, and ing, she wa involved because of the public witnesses coming forward. there is no way that we you could have had access to cassidy hutchinson or mark milley or others if it weren't for ms. cheney's credi

. >> steve: that comes from barry loudermilk. you looked at all this stuff.things they say they say she broke a bunch of laws. one of the things they say she spoke via text or she was warned, liz cheney was warned don't talk to any of the witnesses. is it okay for members of congress to talk to witnesses? >> it is okay for them. it's not against the law. it is good advice that she should not have been speaking to the witness. i think that the -- some aspects of this account are very troubling. i have been one of cheney's loudest critic and a critic of the j-6 committee. i believe she did act improperly, unethical. i thought the committee itself engaged in dishonesty and unethical conduct. the question is whether all of that amounts to a crime and i'm highly skeptic. they are suggesting that this constitutes witness tampering. that's a crime. and i don't think they could really stick this landing in showing this corrupt purpose to influence the testimony. she will be able to argue that she was pursuing a legislative agenda. that she was the vice chair of this

loudermilk interim report intentionally disregards the truth anselect committee's tremendous weight of evidence and instead fabricates lies and inflammatory allegations in an atmpt to cover up what donald trump did. there allegations do not rece the review of the actual evence and are a malicious a carol glee assault on the truth. no -- and cowardly assault on the truth. no reputable lawyer or judge would take this seriously. here is charles in virginia. what do you think? caller: hey, good morning. thanks for taking my call. let me turn this down. as i am sitting here buddy, a word came to me, and that is that for all the so-called christians in this country that say they believe in god, and i heard a few people call in and say how they trust in god and pray and are glad trump is in office because god ordained him and so forth, i just want to say, god does not like folks to take revenge. vengeance is mine, said the lord. so for a president to take vengeful acts against people who investigated the truth on january 6, i think it is appalling if all these folks who honor and worship this

in his overnight post there of what he wants to take place by kash patel and others, and barry loudermilk, they are willing to do the work to put together a report of what they allege to be misdeeds by congresswoman cheney, which i think it's objective to say the idea that what is being alleged amounts to significant criminalized, it's something that is worth the federal charges is deeply questionable, but for donald trump, an investigation is paramount to the pledge that he made on the campaign trail to go after his perceived enemies. >> let's talk about the cr with the time we have left. let's get into what's imminent. jake you have been doing a lot of reporting as you have as well, ryan, on the cr, it's not an omnibus, it's not a long-term deal on the budget. what is it? >> well, it's an 85 day bill with a whole pile of policies that have nothing to do with general government operations, katy. usually speakers have two paths. they could do a long-term omnibus spending bill, which funds government for the entirety of the fiscal year, september 30th of next year, and that could hold, bec

we've seen for the last two years, every six months or so, representative loudermilk trot out a new report rehashing the same baseless allegations about the select committee. and each time he has some new cherry picked piece of evidence that he wants to be some sort of smoking gun. you know, for a lot of that time, they tried to tear down the credibility of one of the select committee's key witnesses, cassidy hutchinson, because she had the courage to tell the truth about what happened on january 6th and in the run up to january 6th. so it's not a surprise that he's now shifting his focus to liz cheney for having the courage to seek the truth about what happened on january 6th. but more broadly, you know, i think in the last couple of weeks, we've seen this troubling trend that the people who control the levers of power in government are about to control the levers of power and government seem to think that the justice system is there to exact political retribution on their enemies, whether they're suing media outlets for coverage they don't like, or trying to criminalize congressional ove

the problem is, when you read the report that was released by representative loudermilk, there is anvidence of that in the report. so it just kind of contains conclusory language about. well, she tampered with hutchinson, and then hutchinson said things that were consistent with what the committee wanted to find. but that's not good enough. you actually need evidence, and i at least haven't seen anything in what's been released so far. >> congressman kinzinger, you, of course, took part in that committee as well. and the president elect has often attacked you, as have his allies, for your participation in that. do you expect that you might face similar attempts at criminal prosecution? >> i don't know. i mean, look, i'm not worried about it because obviously i didn't do anything wrong. liz didn't do anything wrong constitutionally . there's even a question. even if something wrong was done, can the executive actually come after legislator, a legislator? but regardless, no, i'm not worried. donald trump is honestly the most scared guy. he's mad because he was embarrassed. but he also

i want to just play a little bit of what barry loudermilk, the congressman from georgia who put out this report, said on newsmax late yesterday. >> we started finding this back communication between cassidy hutchinson and liz cheney. liz cheney also admits that she shouldn't be having these communications because it's an ethical violation, but sheat continues to do it anyhow. and so that's that's why i think the fbi needs to look into this. >> so just to kind of remind people, kristen, just read this, but our memories might be a bit foggy, even though we were very deeply rooted in this during the january 6th hearing, the sort of star witness was cassidy hutchinson, who worked for donald trump in the white house and what the allegation in this report is, is that when cassidy hutchinson decided to testify against trump previously, she had legal. her legal team was paid for by donald trump and by his. uh, his allies and the allegation in this report is that liz cheney, in bringing her over, also helped her get new legal counsel, which maybe persuaded her or that's that's my word, but that's

loudermilk would love to rewrite history. now this all comes just days after donald trump said in that interview with meet the press that he believed that some of the january 6th committee members should be jailed. it also comes as some republicans on the senate side, who have been meeting with kash patel donald trump's pick to lead the fbi, have been clear that they think that the justice department needs to be independent and that kash patel needs to be prepared at times to stand up to donald trump. and it was just a couple of days ago that i actually asked john cornyn, who is a top republican on the judiciary committee, whether or not he was confident that patel would be able to stand up to donald trump. and he said that that was an important question and something that he was going to be watching very closely because he said, it is really important to him and other republicans on the judiciary committee that the justice department is not politicized against donald trump's enemies. so obviously, this is a space to watch. t

i also believe loudermilk, got some speculation with the january 6 committee footage. i think there is a personal piece to this. that is our job to contextualize anyone throwing weapons, barbs, or sharp elbows at donald trump, and his stated enemies. listed from the donald trump campaign in a quote military stops that? is liz cheney, somebody that can defend herself? are you worried more about others? >> i think that we all need to stand up, and defend liz cheney, and just be very clear, about what will happen, if word gets out, that you can land in jail, because you have just dissent from the regime? it doesn't actually take 100 political opponents, being sent to jail, to dramatically show people's interest in getting involved in politics. simply one or two of your political opponents to jail, and fundamentally change the playing field. i just think that we need to be really clear, about what selective prosecution can mean, for our democracy at large. we can really be sitting in january, with half as many people volunteering for democrats. not because they don't belie

host: ron, about what you said about representative loudermilk, this is pbs.org, it says the january panel releases video of representative loudermilk leading a capitol tour the day before the attack. it says that it released the video by republican lawmaker the day before, showing participants taking photos of stables and tunnels in the capitol complex. that is on pbs.org if you would like to see that. gina, mississippi, republican. caller: good morning, mimi. i would like to make a point to america and specifically the democrats who are so happy that hunter biden has been recused. how many of you people have family members or children or friends who are now in jail, paying big fines because they around with drugs in some way? so now all of your loved ones and everything, they have to suck it up and deal with all these charges that your loved ones and friends are having to serve time now, and now hunter biden is off scott free? nothing in america is fair anymore. you have no way of knowing the truth about anything anymore and i just think democrats are making themselves look so fool

what is interesting to me is loudermilk and others are trying to give trump a defense he isn't askinghe still believes he won the election and had the biggest crowd and he isn't saying she was wrong for saying he didn't when the election but he is saying it's wrong that any of it was investigated. >> so we have that on what the house is doing attempting to criminalize their former colleague a former republican colleague and i will remind those of you paying attention like everybody who testified in the january committee hearings were republicans. it was trump's own people he hired. the other thing that is happening in your body, why are they taking orders from elon musk? who is the speaker, elon musk or speaker johnson? >> elon musk. he invested 200+ million in the last election and now he thinks he owns these guys and he can tell them how to vote and when devote and what i told my republican colleagues and i said something today that if you go along with this and let elon musk shut down the government by tweet, he will own you the entire congress in the next two years you will sit ar

. >> as comically backwards as representative loudermilk's logic is, trump's threat against cheney ismp's strategy is not about logic or facts necessarily. it is about bullying people less powerful than he is. in the mid 2000s , he sued a journalist who said he wasn't actually a billionaire. it was tossed out but trump viewed it as a win. he said he knew he couldn't win the suit but brought it anyway to make a point. i spent a couple of bucks on legal fees and they spent a whole lot more. i did it to make his life miserable. which i'm happy about. he said everyone from liz cheney to kamala harris need to be prosecuted. he has made more than 100 threats to prosecute or punish his perceived enemies and in all of those cases, the facts are beside the point. for decades he has used his deep pockets to bully his enemies and force them to pay legal fees even if they did nothing wrong. starting january 20th he will again have the full weight of the federal government on his side. so how should the people in trump's cross hairs be preparing for the fights ahead? and are there any ways for the

so, again, and i believe congressman loudermilk and his committee ultimately got those transcripts.t to hide information the select committee found. >> i was going to ask what would an investigation by the fbi even look like? but it sounds like you just laid out the things they would examine thoroughly before deciding, and there's nothing there. >> yeah, again, the fbi traditionally requires some evidence -- some evidentiary threshold to even open what's called a preliminary investigation. i just am very familiar with the record here do not see such evidence. now, that doesn't mean, alex, that in a new fbi they disregard that rule, and they do issue subpoenas or they do seek to interview people. i wouldn't be surprised if there are investigations of some kind because of the fact they won't respect those traditional norms, the threshold for a preliminary investigation. but the more they look, the more the truth remains, there's just nothing here that gives ms. cheney or anyone else any exposure. >> let me ask you a question about the d.c. judges this week, which are expressing alarm

now we are watching at least the first turn of those results from the chairman, barry loudermilk. the fact that president-elect trump is latching onto it, that he's homing in on liz chaney. none of this is shocking or surprising but the thread that it then begins to pull on is the one that we've been talking about both here on this side of pennsylvania avenue and then at the other end of pennsylvania avenue at the white house which is what is the role that potential esumptive pardons could play and given the rhetoric, the way there is clearly signals that republicans and the president-elect are focusing on very keenly. >> how do you read this president-elect's 3:00 a.m. post, brendan? >> i'm sorry, which 3:00 a.m. post? >> the 3:00 a.m. post say that go liz chaney could be in trouble. >> i'm sorry. >> the quote was, liz cheney could be in a lot of trouble. >> they will be investigating the investigators. what is the crime that she has committed? just about anything you do as a lawmaker is proehl tekted action. it protects congress people from doing their job. i don't think there's

loudermilk would love to rewrite history. now, i'll just point out that today on capitol hill, kash patel, who is donald trump's pick to lead the fbi, is going to be back on capitol hill meeting with republican senators. and you can expect that this is going to be a course of questioning for many of them. you know, last week when kash patel met with john cornyn, who is a leading republican on the senate judiciary committee, i asked cornyn, are you confident that patel is going to be able to push back against donald trump if he asks you to do something you don't agree with, or if he asks you to break the law? and you know, one thing that cornyn said was that he wasn't sure that it was a strong question to ask that time would tell. and i think that that is just going to be a really interesting thing to watch this morning. does this come up in these meetings that patel has on capitol hill? how do republicans, especially those on the judiciary committee, how are they going to react to this? kate yeah, key questions. >> lauren. gr

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. >> other than barry loudermilk, who's a very respected member of congress doing his very long investigation very tiring investigation into this, and if they found it, i think it ought to be brought to light. if not, then she's fine. i don't have a problem with them investigating that. >> you want the government to go after trump's political enemies. >> if they broke the law. i don't care if they're my political enemies or they're my friends. if they broke the law dadgummit, they ought to be brought in and they ought to be brought to justice. there shouldn't be. that's what we talk about all the time. that's why trump's in the white house. because there is two systems of justice in this country. and you can't have it both ways. you have got to. it's got to be straight and right down the middle. you can go back and watch all the tapes that the conservatives put out of the democrats saying there's not there's not two forms of justice. they're just one. well, there is two forms of justice. the biden white house, obviously, they're releasing criminals, they're releasing pedophiles, they're relea

this is a report from republicans, uh, essentially from barry loudermilk, accusing cheney of colludingh with cassidy hutchinson. we all remember her testimony. they accused her of influencing it. cheney responded today and said, this isn't true. she said no judge would take this seriously. what is your response to to trump saying that this should be investigated? >> well, cassidy hutchinson didn't lie about anything. so how was she coached to lie or to perjure herself? i don't see it. and of course, there's nothing wrong with investigators and members of congress talking to witnesses and finding out whether they have something to say that's relevant. in fact, if you look at the history of that, it seems like the attempt to suborn perjury or at least the attempt to alter her testimony, didn't come from the january 6th committee, but came from somewhere else. in any event, cassidy hutchinson swore under oath. unlike other people who wouldn't testify, like donald trump himself. if there's some other story about january 6th out there that could debunk even one factual statement in the 800

here is' a portion of th she says this,s chairman loudermilk interim report intentionally disregardshe trd the select committee's tremendous weight of evidence and instead fabricates lies and inflammatory allegations in an attempt to cover up what donald trump did. there allatns do not rite the review of the actual evidence and are a maliciousnd carol glee assault on the truth. no -- and cowardly assault on the truth. no reputable lawyer or judge would take this seriously. here is charles in virginia. what do you think? caller: hey, good morning. thanks for taking my call. let me turn this down. as i am sitting here buddy, a word came to me, and that is that for all the so-called christians in this country that say they believe in god, and i heard a few people call in and say how they trust in god and pray and are glad trump is in office because god ordained him and so forth, i just want to say, god does not like folks to take revenge. vengeance is mine, said the lord. so for a president to take vengeful acts against people who investigated the truth on january 6, i think it is appal

host: we are almost out of time but i want to ask you about your colleague, congressman loudermilk whos he is in favor of the fbi investigating former representative liz cheney over her involvement in the january 6 committee. what do you think? caller: i think he is onto something. i met with him and he released a report out of his committee about the whole january 6 debacle that the national guard was not called and although trump wanted them. they stayed two miles away and did not come in. it is all on record through testimony. i think we need -- look, you need to get this right and the committee that was held before i got here was not the right way to do it. nancy pelosi kept people off which would have helped bring about the facts. do we not want the facts and truth. host: she kept democrats off? caller: kept republicans like jim jordan and hand selected the two republicans on the committee to make it so called bipartisan. the truth has not come out on january 6. i do not know if america has the appetite and some feel like we need to move on. i kind of feel that way but if we do no