i tried initially because i just felt louean be a senator, you can be a surgeon, i had a list of things. after a t point ine i realized this is where that was going. as i mentioned, being 6'8", i mean, god blessed him with height, okay, what do i have to thy? >> do yok there's too much emphasis on becoming sports superstae and too lit emphasis on the values to be learned from sports like teamwork,racter building, selflessness, self respect, respect for others? >> i'm big on those. >> yes. >> all of those to me no matter whatou do are ver important and those values, with whatever ndr sons do, you know, we stress that each every day. >> right. >> because it's not to be taken for granted, you know, tt who you are and who you represent, you know, being connected religiously is a strong piece in our household, how we were raised in louisiana, share croppers, the whole nine, you know, education was a big so those things i've never ever let go of and i tryo instill that in both of my sons. >> it's wonderful to meetou both. great job. louise jack, deborah shaw-cole. good luck to the guys gettin