this is a gesture of stability, but it's really hard to see where it leads. >> speaking of loughlin murdoch, what do we know about him? i guess we recognize him, but what do we actually know about him? is he as commit today the rupert murdoch, roger ales school of fox news? >> we can hear that in this speech. he was reting for donald trump to win the 2020 election whereas his father rupert was critical of trump. you look at his network and they were certainly although trump complains about fox all the time, they're certain lesupporting him in a lot of different ways. >> he had a rock climbing wall installed at the studio lot because he's very interested in spear fishing. his father is an obsessive entrepreneur that built the media empire. >> the question becomes will they spin-off the assets, will fox news end up in someone else's hands. we know the liberal son james is disgusted by fox news and would like to see that effected but there's may way to see that when rupert murdoch is still alive. >> when you look at the control of fox and they're going to be the largest shear holders as a voti

his two other siblings, his sister's two out vote loughlin should that day -- rupert murdoch's 92, itd his mother died shortly before her 104th birthday. >> what else are you going to be watching? what is the biggest impact of this is going to have? >> i'm going to be watching what it means, for one, in terms of 2024. will loughlin murdoch play the out front role that his father played in american politics and global politics? you mentioned, just a minute ago, that loughlin had his problems about president trump, former president trump, but former president trump is still very popular with the base. so, if they say true to form, under lachlan the, network will lower the readings. go well lachlan do something different? will he take the company in a different direction? not expected, but we do not know what that's going to look like, and again, to me, that's a huge question that's about more than this company. >> major questions. jim, thank you for covering it and joining us tonight. >> thank you so much. >> president biden meanwhile sending hundreds of more troops to the border as mig

not rupert murdoch, no loughlin murdaugh. it's the audience. that feedback loop every day the more extreme programming the more rage, full hatefu programming, it's almost as if the audience is in charge. now because of the leadershi vacuum that you described, there's nobody at the captai ship, actually running the ship >> there is an effort, and i have the new york city comptroller on my program this past weekend, talking abou this lawsuit, that he, in hi capacity as a new york cit comptroller, is bringing against fox news, to try to, a a shareholder, the new yor city pensions, shape the coverage of fox news, becaus they're trying to hold the accountable. as i think about what we'r about to go through, and wha happened four years ago, n accountability for fox, except for what happened after th election could we see that type o action rain in fox could they be held accountable through these types of measures? if it's not the viewers, i it's not luck with murdaugh, the shareholders >> i mean, i think only thin that really gave them pause, this ma

rupert murdoch himself, who build the right wing's most powerful media ally, today announced he will be stepping down in november from the fox and news corporation boards. he tapped his son loughlin to replace him as the head of the companies, but this is more than just a media business story. because rupert murdoch's media influence on our political landscape has been absolutely massive. nbc's chloe melas has more. >> with a media legacy spanning the 70 years, tonight, billionaire media titan rupert murdoch says he's stepping down from fox and news corps. in an 02 employees, murdaugh says the time is right for me to take on different roles. >> rupert murdoch created all of this and so much more across america and the globe. >> keeping the title of chairman emeritus, he now passes the torch to his oldest son, lachlan, who will become sole chairman. at 92 years old, the decision was expected, but murdaugh noted it was not due to his health, saying our companies are and robust health, as am i. >> rupert murdoch passing the torch to his son, lachlan. do you think that things will change in how fox news is run? >> i don't. for the super bowl future, i think laughlin's going to run th

so far, it's been, reported, loughlin and a lack of leadership has been the story, you know, the wild card here is what happens with rupert murdoch vision for a different fox news, that is much more tethered to reality. all of that is possible down the line, but not that seems in minute. >> more of the succession plot line that we have all been watching. so there is a debate coming up this weekend, just a couple days, brian, what are you watching for with that, given the host of the debate? >> right. fox is leading the debates for the second time. that does speak to the republican party's relationship with fox. more importantly, the questions that will be, asked are we going to hear questions about substance? is fox going to drag the party back towards a policy based, reality based approach? or, are they going to ask about ufos again? the way they did in the first debate? the questions are telling, even more so than the answer sometimes. it shows where fox thinks the party, is and where it wants the party to be. >> brian, thank you so much for your time today. i'm back with some exciting news after this quick break, we'll be righ

is very clear that that rupert murdoch's sons, now laughlin is the only one that's left with the country, the one who's not as conservative already left the country. loughlin has already said we're not gonna charge change the market position of fox because he doesn't want to drive his father's company into the ground. so i think there is a real risk in changing political position of fox. loughlin doesn't want to do that politically, need is more to do that from a business perspective. i think these other lawsuits that are still out there, smartmatic style as a 2. 7 billion dollar lawsuit against fox, i don't see them changing, i think the points that we have been making is that no one is really running fox. the audience is running fox. >> that's an interesting point. before we go, this is in murdaugh's letter to his staff. he says, most of the media is in cahoots with the elite peddling political narratives rather than pursuing the truth. it's very rich. >> there is something that is just got to stick in our cross. particularly those of us who are not born with silver spoons in our mouth like donald trump and rupert murdoch. when they turn around and calle