you're talking about louie gohmert. you are talking about louie gohmert. "politico" is reporting today that louie gohmert is a texas congressman. circulating -- circulated a version of the bill meant to honor capitol police but removing any reference to the thing they're being honored for, which is defending the seat of democracy against the insurrection. >> absolutely. that's exactly what i'm referencing. and -- and so, you know, what -- what is -- what is the problem, with recognizing that white supremacists, those who stormed the -- the capitol, with confederate flags, with nazi symbols. and who, you know, shouted racial epito our african-americ police officers. what is -- what is the difficulty in recognizing that? that is the truth. that is the truth. not the alternative truth you are promoting. >> it's also so just, you know, history matters. and how we remember history, accurately, matters. and to -- to this early stage, try and be rewriting the first drafts of history. it just seems particularly galling. senator menendez, appreciate your time. than

but, 12 republicans, including louie gohmert, voting against. gislation earlier today for the awards. why? because he's not happy the current legislation calls the capitol attack an insurrection. gohmert's version, also, obscures the nature of the deaths of officers, like brian sicknick, by only saying that the officers, quote, passed in january, 2021. it's part of a broader effort, by republicans, who want us all to whitewash our memories of the insurrection, and who continue to push the big lie of widespread fraud in the 2020 election. well, my next guest is a capitol police officer, who defended lawmakers from insurrectionists that day. he's a 13-year veteran. he was called a racial slur, more than a dozen times, by rioters, as he helped fend off that mob. capitol police officer, harry dunn joins me, now. he is speaking for himself, not on behalf of the department. and i am so grateful that you are here, and i thank you for your service. and i thank you for defending democracy and the rule of law. thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you for

i mean, it's -- even by louie gohmert standards, that is a ludicrous statement. >> yeah, which is really statements. but yeah, there were pipe bombs planted outside the dnc and the rnc. they had built a gallows. let's not forget they had built a gallows outside of the capitol. you know, i just -- when i think about this, i think about the fact that in the days after this insurrection, you know, those capitol police officers, many of whom had become friends of mine, i'm watching them limping around capitol hill covered in bruises. i called one of them the next day who i've gotten to know pretty well. and he was covered in bruises, limped around, but he showed up to work the next day. and people want to play politics with that? i'm just not going to let it happen. >> there's also senator ron johnson who said he never felt threatened by the insurrectionists because he, quote, knew those people who loved this country, truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break a law, end quote. it's gohmert-esque. he said he would feel differently if they were black lives matter demonstr

that we continue to draw attention to what happened. >> you know, louie gohmert said, i just want to read people the quote he said. i am all for the medals but the speaker's legislation contains language that was neither fair, nor accurate. we now know there was no-armed insurrection. nobody had arms. so just trying to keep it honest so that we only put truthful things in the bill. first of all, the word armed means to be armed with a weapon. there were tasers, people using hockey sticks to bludgeon police officers, flagpoles. i mean, it's, even by louie gohmert's standards, that is a ludicrous statement. >> yeah, which is really saying something, isn't it? i mean, because he makes some pretty ludicrous statements. but, yeah, i mean, there were pipe bombs planted outside of the dnc and the rnc. they had built a gallows. let's not forget. they had built a gallows outside of the -- the capitol. the -- you know, i just -- i -- when i think about this, i think about the fact that, in the days after this insurrection. you know, those capitol police officers, many of whom have become frien

. >>> so congressman louie gohmert is trying to rewrite the history of the capitol insurrection.one of 12 republicans to goat against the bill to award the congressional gold medal to police officers who responded to the insurrection. here's why. >> i'm all for the medals, but the speaker's legislation contained language that was neither fair nor accurate. we now know there was no armed insurrection. nobody had arms. so just trying to keep it honest so that we only put truthful things in the bill. >> cnn political commentator ana navarro joins me now. ana, it's good to see you. thank you so much for joining us. no armed insurrection. how low can these republicans go? >> honestly, i hate even responding to anything louie gohmert says because over 535 members of congress, he has to be one of the stupidest, dumbest persons in congress, and that is a very high bar. it is stupid to say there were no arms when we saw people getting killed. it is stupid to say there were no arms when we saw the way the sticks, the flagpoles, the metal flag poles, sharp metal flag poles were used. you th

i talked to one just moments ago, louie gohmert a staunch trump ally and conservative. he said essentially that perhaps that mike pence was having second thoughts about his decision and essentially having some concerns that mike pence suggested that the election was not -- there was no integrity behind the election because he didn't align himself with the trump allies during the january 6th session when he actually certified the electoral results. i asked this trump ally, louie gohmert, whether or not he believes joe biden was legitimately elected, he would not say that. it goes to show how mike pence is aligning himself within the forces of the party with unproven lies that the election was somehow stolen from him. >> thank you very much, manu. i want to go republican city commissioner for philadelphia, al schmidt, one of the rare lawmakers who stood up. i appreciate both of you very much. i know our viewers are familiar with you both and you're talking so honestly on these issues. al, you were attacked by the former president for defending the integrity of the electio

i remember louie gohmert and other trump's allies want to rewrite the history of january 6th.omment on their comments? how important was it to you of the event on that day? >> it is always important to tell the truth and be honest of what happened regardless of what it is. that was attempted insurrection. they attempted to interrupt democracy. that's what they attempted to do. i don't know any other way to describe it. officer sicknick was killed. we had officers that took their lives because of the stress that they endured from that day. that's what happened. i don't know how you can word it any different and what exactly happened. >> i want to ask you something you have been vocal about and that you have talked about with me. you talk about the dark place you were in following the insur insurrection. you also worried of your fellow officers who are dealing with depression and who have been dealing with depression in law enforcement and even before the insurrection and now afterwards are dealing with depression possibly even suicide. why is this so important to you? what do y

they try to separate themselves from louie gohmert, paul gosar, marjorie taylor greene, and lauren boebertsey still validated that ridiculous claim of a stolen election. so i think it's important that they face liability, legal responsibility for what they did. but let's not forget, those wringing their hands, trying to separate themselves from the weird and bizarre members of congress, they have responsibility as well. they confirmed that lie in much softer terms. >> i have to say, you've spoken to me very candidly about how you're going to carry the trauma of january 6th with you for the rest of your life. and folks will remember, video that you recorded during the riot was used as evidence. i want to show folks. >> take your pins off. >> yeah. what the [ bleep ]. >> take your pins off. >> pins off. >> it hits me every time. because you can hear it in your voice. and you have said that you have struggle since then, interacting with the members who voted to overturn the election results even after all that you lived through. if there is communication between any members and anyone who stor

i mean, you heard some louie gohmert, for example, still spreading the big lie.ormer president of the united states still instead of heeding the call from one of the top republicans in the house on homeland security and national security, michael mccall to our colleague, jake tapper saying, please, former president trump go out there and say this day, march 4th is not a day that i will be inaugurated. please understand that you shouldn't even think about any kind of attack as law enforcement is warning about today. instead he put out a statement, you know, angry at "the wall street journal" because they wrote something about georgia and the election results and blaming the former president for the two losses for the republicans there and doubled down on the big lie as part of that. so, yeah. you don't necessarily have to have the text messages that end was talking about over the phone calls to understand that there's real communication in the eyes of so many of these insurrectionists. >> yeah. dana, you're absolutely right. in that statement that trump put out to

. >> you're talking about louie gohmert. politico says he circulated a version of the bill to honor police but removing reference of the thing they are being honored for, defending the scene of democracy against an insurrection. >> absolutely. that's exactly what i'm referencing. so, you know, what is the problem with recognizing that white supremacists, those who storm the capitol with confederate flags and nazi symbols and shouted racial e epatats to our capitol police officers, what is the difficulty in recognizing that? that is the truth. that is the truth. not the alternative truth you're promoting. >> it also so just the history matters and how we remember history accurately matters and to at this early stage to try to be rewriting the first drafts of history, it just seems particularly gulling. senator menendez, appreciate your time. thank you. >>> just ahead, everything we're learning about the atlanta killings and later, professional basketball player jeremy lin on the attacks asian americans now face. we'll be righ

. >> well, the attempts by trump allies like congressman louie gohmert and other republicans to white-washy that it was an insurrection, do they just empower the people who did this to attack again? does it just embolden them? >> it does. it does. look, we know that this -- what happened on january 6th was an obscene offense against those things that all americans hold dear, right? democracy and the sanctity of our process of electing presidents and everybody agreeing to the fair and free results of an election. we know now from the report issued by the dni this week about the domestic violent extremist threat in this country that that threat is being accelerated not only by the big lie, the claim that the election was stolen, the grievance around that, but by the people who continue to perpetuate that. these folks, these violent extremists, are emboldened by the acceptance and the acknowledgement of public people who are -- who fail to call them out, who fail to puncture this, you know, let the hot air out of this lie, and who continue to perpetuate these falsehoods to this day. and i thi

and here's how congressman louie gohmert justified his operation. >> i'm all for the medals, but theknow there was no armed insurrection, nobody had arms. so just trying to keep it honest so that we only put truthful things in the bill. >> fact check, that is false. some people were armed according to video and court documents. and then on friday, 14 republicans voted against condemning the military coup in myanmar. another apparent bipartisan slam dunk, one would think. you'll see some of the very same names on this list. green, massie, gaetz, biggs. a group of republicans wouldn't go on the record to denounce violent attempts to overthrow democracies. at least they're consistent on that. and perhaps no republican has been more consistent here than senator ron johnson. yesterday he again downplayed and spread falsehoods about the january 6th insurrection attempt. >> one of the reasons i'm being attacked is because i very honestly said i didn't feel threatened on january 6th. i didn't. there was much more violence on the house side. there was no violence on the senate side in terms o

irresponsible member of the house of representatives are, marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz, louie gohmert, tom mass massey, andy kbigs, andy harris, lance gooden, michael cloud, andrew s. clyde, greg stube. bob good, and john rose. leading off our discussion tonight, democratic congressman jason crow of colorado. he's a member of the house armed services committee. also with us, andrew weissmann, a former fbi general counsel, former federal prosecutor. he was one of the prosecutors working on the mueller investigation. he is an nbc news and msnbc legal analyst. and, congressman crow, let me begin with you and the fbi's continued search for suspects and this release of video to us on social media that we all see and now millions of people can see. they have been identifying an awful lot of people that way. >> yeah. good evening, lawrence. thanks for having me on. yeah, we have to just continue to remember that this is a brutal attack that we are dealing with on january 6th. it was an insurrection. it was an assault not just on our democracy but on police officers and members of congress, o

"forbes" reporting congressman louie gohmert plans to introduce an alternative resolution that doesn't award the riot. he can avoid mentioning the riot but we have the tape and we can play it over and over. america saw it. the world saw it. those were insurrectionists. >>> coming up in the next hour -- anthony fauci will testify for the second straight day about getting vaccines to americans and we will take you to one city trying a new strategy, getting rid of appointments. people started lining up hours before the door even opened. >>> plus, the biden administration refuses to call it a crisis but the number of migrants crossing the border continues to rise. we're going to take you to one of the sites where thousands and thousands of unaccompanied minors are being held. you get a month for $5. so i'm bringing everyone within 12 degrees of me. bam, 12 months of $5 wireless. visible. wireless that gets better with friends. did you know that 70% of the soils on your clothes are invisible? try new tide pods hygienic clean heavy duty. see the difference, after being washed with tide hygie

louie gohmert also voted against honoring the officers for their actions on january 6th.omits the reality of the events on january 6th, mentioning three officers who, quote, passed in january 2021 without acknowledging that officer brian sicknick died after being injured in the attack. and officers jeffery smith and howard took their own lives in the aftermath of the insurrection. gohmert's bill failed and pelosi's bill passed 413-12. >>> coming up, everybody, the covid vaccine is leading us out of the pandemic but spring breakers may hold us back. >> i am worried about the covid, but being outside with the sun and everything, you know, it helps out a lot. >> it's time to move on with our lives. [music: "i swear"] jaycee tried gain flings for the first time the other day... and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. ♪ t-mobile is the leader in 5g. we also believe in putting people first by treating them right. so we're upping the benefits without upping the price. introducing magenta max. now with unlimited premium data that can't slow do

they're not all louie gohmert and jim jordan. who were working to bring down democracy and overthrow the government. but they look at people like liz cheney and adam kinzinger and know they've done what they can. they're not going to get on the house floor tomorrow and start screaming about how we have to preserve the constitution, a constitutionally separate branch of government that has every right to be a check on the executive, and that what happened that day was a severe attack on one of our branches of government, an attack on the actual election itself, an attempt to steal it and overturn the results. so, you know, the democrats recognize that even the last ones standing, they said what they said in january and now they don't expect them to do any more. >> aisha, i know from my coverage of it that what republicans are really afraid of is what stacey abrams proposed this week, making it noncommercial to be for rolling back access to ballots and voting for disenfranchising voters. and i wonder, again, i don't ever want to pu

this wasn't, you know, louie gohmert and jim jordan, although he was lurking about at cpac.hree highly intelligent men who know they are trying to play the populist card, a world you used earlier, joe. the key to populism is not that you are doing things on behalf of the people but on behalf of the real people. a small segment of the people that you think are the real americans. not the ones that went to harvard, you know, or to princeton or to stanford. i think they present themselves as, you know, well, we were the guys that, you know, were just there by accident. we were part of the conservative underground. but that's what makes it so despicable. they know exactly what they're saying, what they're doing. and i actually think after watching them and after watching the former guy, that this is priming people up for more violence. and they know it. and they don't care. they decided this is a base strategy. you and kasie were talking about the bill that has to pass, republicans have to find a way to pass it. that's not necessarily true if all they're relying on is constantly