my employee louie shahada. >> my name is louie. i was at this time in the store. i making sandwiches. the guy, he asked for the i.d., the lady she dropped the i.d. on the counter. and after she take the i.d., he asked her how old are you and she answered. this happened. i see that. >> ok. thank you. >> if you could do that at your seat we can hear from dr. ocho. if you could fill the card out at your seat so we can hear from dr. ocho now. thank you. >> commissioners, dr. ocho, representing the health department. there's no doubt that the appellant agent did sell cigarette to minors -- to a minor and the truth as revealed by the operator said that sure, that there are schools close in the neighborhood. they actually deter these mistakes. the appellant was not willing to take responsibility for the action of his agent by saying they should not sell cigarettes and accept consequences of his employee's negligence. i would say he was acting on the appellant's behalf and that it's his responsibility to ensure that his agents are very much aware of the law. i think 25 da