louis griever, the executive assistant director of the fbi third ranking who used to be on these teams himself went to his desk, brought over a bug, which was the size of a postage stamp. a little thicker, and it will record for 10 hours or transmit all in stereo as you wish. it was so shocking that the fbi would give me this that an fbi agent assigned to public affairs and was in on one of these interviews actually interjected and said, are you sure we can be giving him this? he or she is questioning the third ranking official in the fbi about whether this material could actually be given to me. another thing they do is create a phony bush. they will go behind the bush and towards the front door of a house and -- >> come on, come on. that's like the "road runner." >> they will. also they go to elevator school in order to learn how to take control of an elevator. so they go into an office building to bug one of the suites and ride up on top of the elevator and in the middle of the night get off. put the bugs in. they get back on the elevator, ride up and down and go out in the morning