ok well i'm pleased to say we can now talk to dr louis harrington an anti terrorism expert and also the author of understanding martyrdom terrorism in europe so you're a good person to talk to today louis thanks for coming on can you make sense of what's we've seen in france today is it easy to pinpoint the causes. well molly you know based of all my work i look to 80 men so in the last 20 years there's been 48. and i would look to it all 80 men responsible and try to find things that connect these individuals to get. so it's him he it's very disconcerting looking at myself but on the. next day we're going to you know i think clearly carry on is fine. you know. so i looked at the people who actually carry out these it's not people who talk about it not people who go wall and threatened to do it not people that might have done it i've looked at all 18 individuals who actually did the deal and there's a pattern of. thursley they've experienced cold black straw in childhood. this is led to a series of dysfunctionality substance abuse criminality. even turning their lives around they've got

terror expert dr louis harrington believes the sharlee abdo car could sure has been spoken about how being well used as an excuse by islamist to curry out atrocities and they would have attempted in any case. when we need to see what goes on with the stream of speech it annoys a lot of people and the people that sharing our test at the track they're not doing it because of charlie hebdo they're not doing it because of of what's going on there they use 8 serves as a useful way of giving what they're planning to do anyway legitimacy you know there are a lot of people who disagree with charlie or don't it's all just thousands of what you would call is list is a mystic stream ists. it's very few more terrorists there's very few people who actually do the deal if the charlie hebdo was so offensive was so horrible surely they could be thousands of people on the street stabbing one another it's not it's a tiny tiny minority what is it about the tiny minority that distinguishes them from all the rest of us and that's why you have to look at this individual level when one starts it almost giv

or through an anti terror expert dr louis harrington believes the prophet muhammad caricature is have been used as an excuse by islamist the cardiod atrocities they would have attempted in any case when you see what goes on with the stream of speach. and the people that sharing our chose to track they're not doing it because of charlie a little doing it because of what's going on there. it serves as a useful way of getting what they were planning to do anyway legitimacy you know there are a lot of people who disagree with charlie hebdo there's all this thousands of what you would call is list is the most extreme it's. it's very few more terrorists there's very few people who actually do the deal if the charlie hebdo was so offensive was so horrible surely they could be thousands of people on the streets starving one another it's not it's a tiny tiny minority what is it about the type of minority that distinguishes them from all the rest of us and that's why you have to look at this individual level when one starts it almost gives legitimacy to the others so the reason that france has

well author and anti terror expert dr louis harrington does believe despite what many are saying about the challis had a caricature they've actually had little influence on the terror level in france. when we need to see what goes on with the stream of speech it annoys a lot of people and the people that sharing our chose to track they're not doing it because of charlie or to a little doing it because of what's going on there they use 8 serves as a useful way of getting what they were planning to do anyway legitimacy you know there are a lot of people who disagree with charlie or don't it's all just the thousands of what you would call is list is a mystic stream ists. it's very few more terrorists there's very few people who actually do the deal if the charlie hebdo was so offensive was so horrible surely they'd be thousands of people on the streets starving one another it's not it's a tiny tiny minority what is it about the type of minority that distinguishes them from all the rest of us and that's why you have to look at this the individual level when one starts it almost gives legit