at first there as some of you know of louis hartz as a book published in the 1950s called the liberal tradition in america was very influential one and argued, you for kind of a consensus version of american history as basically being by political and economic liberalism. and i thought cleverly, i would write a book about the illiberal tradition in america pretty quickly. i learned that that was probably not the best approach, including when i a presentation on zoom my to the other fellows and got some interesting you know suggestions from them so. i decided i would try to the book starts with a chapter the invention of the liberal tradition in the 1940 and 1950s and then goes back into the 17th century just to push you a little more. okay, what liberals and liberalism is. there were a lot of other labor that we use when we think about people who were on the. right. whether you were talking conservative far fascists, even populist, you know, a phrase that i bet you certainly can't very comfortable with because know that in the 19th century there was a strong populist that was not illi