louis just embraced me, supported me, and we're helping each other. everybody saying i put st. louis on the map, but st. louis put me on the map. >> most new businesses fail in five years, you not only didn't fail, you grew and expanded. what was your secret to success? >> people didn't believe in me at first. all i got was negative input. nothing positive. so that was kind of my inspiration. i was focused on this. i knew if i had a product that was good, it would work. i would go all over looking for the best restaurant, and especially soul food, it's a diei dieing breed. so my mom taught me and i wanted to spread it with my family. it's a good product, people will enjoy it and support you. >> the first restaurant was great, the second one was just as great. that's the one that most people go to, mangrove, but the third one, uppercrust. >> that is like the disney world of restaurants. >> exactly. ♪ >> hey. >> been waiting on you. >> do you have good news? >> i want you to sit down. >> don't tell me to sit down. getting the upper crust open has really been a challenge. i had all kinds of obstacles, i spent a year applying for a loan, and then i found out i need a new roof, the kitchen has been held up -- >> that's what we have been waiting on for 18 months. >> [ bleep. yes! all you have to do is open up! [ bleep all right! >> i knew it! >> what were the challenges of making that big project work. i understand the restaurant piece, but what did you have to do? >> i used the same principals, i always wanted to own my own restaurant. i leased these other places, i take them, pick them up, but they not my property, so if a landlord thinks you're making a lot of money, they up the rent. so i wanted to own my own restaurant. i found this building in an area that i was not allowed as a black young lady. it was segregated, so i could not go there, but now i have my own restaurant there. >> you couldn't even legally go there before, but now not only can you go there but you own a business there. >> i own a business there. >> you got an award for exprisoners working for you. >> well, my son informs the system, and when he came home, there wasn't a lot of opportunity. so i decided i would open this business, help my son, and other offenders coming home that can't find jobs. so they're just -- they made a mistake, so i'm willing to give them an opportunity, so i decide i would hire exoffenders to help me out, helping eesm other. >> another thing about the show, it's not just you as an entrepreneur, but also as a mother. how important is family to you? >> they're very important, they're people you can depend on. you know your family, you know what makes them tick, you know when they're happy. i want to be able to give them a job, and i want them to take this bids over after i'm gone. >> is this a big part of what it's about? being able to pass the torch? >> that's a big part, my mom didn't have anything to leave me. so if i can do something for my family, my family was my support. if they taste the chicken, and they say it's good, it goes on the menu. >> how about your son? >> we love each other, but -- >> let's talk to him and see what he has to say about you. stay right there. >> when she gets mad, she pulls a mom card on me. right or wrong, she whips out the mom card. >>> you could have cleaned them, skinned them, done everything else. >> now tim doesn't want to help, that's fine, because two can play at that game. >> okay, michelle, don't make that cake over here. if tim doesn't want to cook my ribs, then i'm not going to let michelle do the baking for them. since they want to go there. >> hold on. michelle want her money -- >> she's going to fix it over there. i don't have any problem -- >> i got a life. >> i wish you'd get a man. >> people see the fighting and the arguing on camera, but they also see the love. what is different about your relationship? >> well, we're in business together, which is a mistake. i'll let him talk. >> for one, she's my mom, and she's my business partner. so when she's made, she pulls the mom card on me. so right or wrong, she has a mom card for me. >> and that makes it tough, but it also makes you successful, right? >> yeah. >> you have a level of trust that most people don't have. >> yeah we have old school meets new school. >> i leave the modern aspects to him, technology, marketing. >> that's good, i'm glad you mentioned it, something goes wrong, and shes c cusses you ou for it. >> yes, it just got in the right hands of people, and it eventually got in the hands of oprah, and that was just a blessing. >> hi! and then someone else screams. >> where is mrs. robbie. holy [ bleep it's oprah. >> when she showed up, i was so excited. i could hardly believe my eyes. i knew she had life class in st. louisi didn't think she would have time to come visit little old me. >> the tv show has increased our business 100%. it's opened the doors for us. we have a lot more things on the table. >> is it ever difficult to do day today operations of the restaurant because of the tv show? >> yeah, normally we're out working in the restaurant, but now, we have people that come see us, you know. >> that's right, people want to come see us, take pictures, get a hug, and we appreciate that because some people say i just came to eat today and they're going right back. >> they came to eat from out of town and go right back, that's right there is a blessing. >> that must be an amazing feeling. >> it is, it's wonderful. >> i watch the show, and i suspect, i suspect that it will be difficult for you to hand that restaurant over 100%. >> yeah, a little old lady was 90 something still in her business, and i thought that's me. if i don't have to work, that's different. they can take over the business, i just nee