poster boy is louise gutierrez who rose up from poverty illinois.ng, my dream to capitol hill is out today and here he is get to your book in a moment. i want to ask you the same question i asked juan and mary katharine. i had to to pull it out of them by the way it wasn't an easy answer. you got a situation america today where the american government is imposing pain on some people for the so-called good of other people. i think obama care it's very very dramatic. some people didn't have health insurance are going to get it and they are going to get it free. in order to get it free. a lot of people are going to be paying higher premiums co-pay and divucketd divubility tillables. is that okay. >> greatest good for the greatest number of people. i have a you till tarren approach to it too. >> bill: if more people are benefiting then they have to go that way. shouldn't then, congressman, we have a year so we can see how many people are benefiting as opposed to how many are suffering? wouldn't that be a fair i think we can do the process. i like people

gutierrez. our next is louise gohmert. he is in his fifth term in the house and a member of the house judiciary committee where he serves as vice chair on the subcommittee on crime terrorism and homeland security duties also member of the committee on natural resources. congressman gohmert please proceed. >> thank you chairman durbin ranking member cruz. i am before you have someone who has a heavy heart for every victim of crime especially violent crime. i come before you today as someone who has been involved in success for prosecuting murder. i have defended a man who happen to be african-american a murder in which he was acquitted using self-defense having killed a man. i've successfully appealed appropriately and have gotten a capital murder conviction reversed in which the defendant happened to be african-american. i presided over many murder trials as a judge is achieved justice. i have reviewed murder trials on appeal so i'm somewhat familiar with the process involves with murder and assault of trials. by one and a