gotta represent louisville, kentucky, where we're from.ls. >> sauer makes rings using a number of items he scrapes together in his dorm. he starts with a plastic deodorant bottle, some string pulled from his mattress. >> i'll take three of these strings here and braid them together, makes this right here. >> he uses the string to slice off the small, ring-shaped neck of the plastic bottle. >> cut that off. >> three for a dollar! >> i've got to pop that ball out of there. the ball's the hardest thing. i so pop that ball out, take the ring, file the ring down on the ground. >> sauer uses plastic bags for the ring's outer coating. >> take a strip of the garbage bag, take a couple bar of soap, tie it around there, put it on there. spin it around. then i stretch it. this is the string used to make the white. >> for lettering, he uses cellophane wrap from jail-issued sandwiches, and he creates dye by rubbing colored pencils on the floor and adding water. >> this one's green, could be light green. the less color you put, you could make them light

. >> louisville. >> louisville, right?? did i say it right? louisville? >> yeah, louisville. >> martha: louisville. >> louisville. >> martha: what should i not miss at the kentucky state fair? >> oh, it's just a great time out here. we love to see fox news. i was really surprised this morning when i was watching. i told my wife we are going to get to see fox news when we go out today. >> martha: what do you suggest we see? >> the livestock are great. we saw the winning watermelon. 293 pounds, i think. >> martha: i want to see that. >> my kids enjoy all the state police and the local law enforcement. >> martha: so we just watched the sheep contest and now we are going to go over here and see some cattle. >> martha: her name is soul dream lady. she is just lovely. we have lady wright over here. just relaxing. >> martha: what am i looking for if i'm a judge. >> you are looking for how much muscle, how wide they are over their rack. over their lion how long they are down in their lion and how much muscle they have down through

but we always going to keep the shizz alive on the streets of louisville. time we dance for him we going to keep him alive. >> yeah. >> these guys are our cheerleaders. i call them [ bleep ] riders. you might want to edit that out. >> what up, homo? >> you a homo. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] >> we' see w's gay when he hit the yard. we going to see who's gay. they going to make him a little boy for what he did. he ain't never going to get away with that. his life is miserable. they're going to give it to him raw. everywhere he go, he ain't never going to be able to live. he might as well do himself a favor and kill himself. >> the notoriety around brown's case forced jail officials to put him in protective custody. >> there was a lot of people trying to get to him so we ended up placing him in a single cell and protecting him due to his case. >> i'm not a protective custody type of guy. i like to fight my own battle. people say they're going to kill you in the yard and they going to do this, do that, i can only die once. so if i die, i'll be with my son, i

louisville, kentucky, is a city that knows about good times. but when good times go bad, there's a place downtown where it all gets sorted out. the louisville hit tro department has a daily population of about 2,000 men and women charged with anything, from minor crimes to capital murder. most are here awaiting trial of the resolution of their charges. the original jail opened in 1976. 20 years later, an additional jail facility was built right across the street. >> let's go! >> today, both buildings are overcrowded. and their layouts are outdated. >> how are you guys doing back here? you doing all right? >> director mark bolton wants to change that. >> this is an old facility. it's a very costly fa sillty to operate. and one of my goals that i would like to accomplish before i leave here is master capacity planning for a new direct supervision jail. >> direct supervision is a system where officers are stationed inside housing units 24/7. research shows it to be more effective in reducing violence than in facilities where remote supervision is

every year, about 45,000 men and women are booked into the louisville metro department of jail. on charges ranging from misdemeanors to murders. most have only been charged with their crimes and are here awaiting trial or the resolution of their cases. >> act like you got some sense. >> those stays can range from months to years. and during that time, some will find themselves with new troubles. >> we have some intel from two various sources. there's been a whole lot of marijuana on the fourth floor, so we're trying to catch something and then link it back to certain inmates and try to link where it's coming in. we have some ideas, so what we've got now, i've activated the shift team of s.o.r.t. we're going to go in and get in their fast, search the inmates, search the dorm. and hopefully get some of the dope out of there today. >> go in there hard, get them all out, search them, go back in, search the dorm. all right. anybody causes us any problems, we cuff them up, we put them in one of the holding cells. we'll deal with them later. all right. any questions about what we're do

we going to always keep shizz alive on the streets of louisville. every time we dance for him we going to keep him alive. >> yeah. >> these guys are our cheerleaders. i call them [ bleep ] >> you a homo. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ blp ] >> we'll see who's gay when he hit the yard. they going to make him a little boy for what he did. he ain't never going to get away with that. they're going to give it to him raw. everywhere he go, he ain't never going to be able to live. he might as well do himself a favor and kill himself. >> the notoriety around brown's case forced jail officials to put him in protective custody. >> there was a lot of people trying to get to him so we ended up having to place him into a single cell and protect him. >> i'm not a protective custody type of guy. i like to fight my own battle. well, you know, i can only die once. so if i die, i'll be with my son, i'll be with my grandparents. i'm not afraid of death. never have been. >> deshawn powell makes his hate tread well known. protective custody inmates are segregated. for powell who

why louisville? >> well, you combine the head with the heart and great things happen and that's what great businesses do. they appeal to the best in people. they train people and set a vision and you guide the city through wonderful values. our values are life long learning and health and compassion and you have a strong economic development strategy focussed on the unique strengths of the city and everybody has to feel like they're along for an economic positive ride. you pull that together and work 22 hours a day and things happen. >> charlie: at the same time a lot of us hear what you said and think to ourselves what's he mean by compassion? >> it's been one of the most interested journey and more people have interested in that than anything we do. the notion the values, life long learning, easy. health, easy, physical, mental and environmental health. but i looked for a third value and that's where compassion came from. we define as respect for each and every one of our citizens so they're human

economic policy in louisville, kentucky.nuchin says there was zero chance that congress would not raise the debt limit. mitch mcconnell said there is zero chance congress will not raise the debt limit. the senate majority leader has a lot of faith in congress. time for our latest bloomberg business flash. fox sky deal is facing trouble from an activist group. lawyers are demanding a fresh review by the u.k. regulators. this is after a ruling on the merger was fatally flawed and the $15 billion acquisition would give rupert murdoch 25% of 21st century fox and 60% ownership of sky. you london mosque and richard branson are known investors in outer space but they are not the only billionaires on board. according to the bloomberg the 16aires index, member list also includes bill hing and marks zuckerberg. funding has increased sevenfold in the past five years. drug maker shire says the cfo will leave at the end of the year. he will be joining a boston-based startup called indigo which provides growers of premium seeds treated wi

louisville metro marks her first time in an adult facility. >> what are you reading? >> a handbook. >> a fact that has not been lost on sherry, who is helping karmak adjust oher first day in jail. >> when she walked in, she was shaken, so i just immediately grabbed her and stayed up with her last night. i've been staying up with her, showing her the ropes. >> and my case right now, i need to trust somebody. because i feel like i got nobody, i just got myself. and i know in jail, it is not the ideal place to trust somebody, because they're out for themselves. that is where i met sherry. >> she is serving one year for failure to pay child support and is waiting for trial on a variety of drug-related charges to which she has pled not guilty. >> you hit one five times. you wait, there will be a pause, it will tell you what to do. okay? you can find out your commissary information. >> i have been in jail numerous times. unfortunately, i know the ropes. that is not something i'm proud of. >> we'll have to get you a new brass. >> come on. >> i'm going to need to talk to you.

they thought maybe a larger city, like lexington or louisville.they wanted to do what was best for the commonwealth and went back and forth between lexington and louisville and two gentlemen who were local judges in the town, in frankfurt, thought if we choose lexington or louisville, we'll be going against all of the citizens who offered up all of those resources and all of that money to keep the capitol here time and time again. in the end, they chose to keep frankfurt as the state capitol. this was the only building operated by the koconfederate army. they were inaugurating their governor in this building when they heard distant shelling and the confederates inaugurated richard haas, the second confederate governor in kentucky. as soon as that inauguration was complete, they heard the shelling and they got out of town. they burned bridges as they were leaving town in order to keep those troops at bay. the union soldiers came in and the union used this building as a baracks during the civil war. right in this doorway is where they were inaugurat

if anyone wants to move to louisville, we have plenty.conomy is growing faster than the ability to fill the jobs and train for the jobs as well. it's a nice place to live. good quality of life. some would say the best quality. we need to make sure people are ready for those jobs. the training so you are always in a position to have a 21st century career. the big issue of the day is the howling -- hollowing out of middle income jobs in the country. it is reducing social mobility and hope. charlie: hollowing out means what in this case? mayor fischer: not as many. we have fewer people getting richer and a lot people getting poorer. when we had a bigger metal -- middle class, we saw positive growth in the country. countries,erging they are creating a middle-class. and that creates demand, which creates economic growth. mayor fischer: 77% of the economy is driven by retail. if we don't have people making living wages, the economy will have difficulty growing. , and it leads to unrest limits people's potential to contribute. it gets back to th

let me tell you one thing we are doing in louisville.mebody comes into the jail -- and the biggest users of jail in any city are people who are dual diagnosis, mental health and drug addiction. and they rotate through. when they come in, we help with treatment. we sign him up for medicaid so when they leave jail they can continue treatment, not just throw them out on the streets. you can provide housing and 24/7 counseling for about $30,000 a year. to treat a dual diagnosis patient is about $80,000 a year. not only is it morally right to help with treatment, it is also less expensive. charlie: thank you for coming. it is good to have you. thank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪ reporter: you are watching "bloomberg technology." let's start with a check the first word news. president trump doubled down on his initial statements that all sides share the blame to the deadly charlottesville nationalist march this past weekend. he spoke at trump tower. president trump there is blame : on both sides. you look at both sides, i think ther

mcconnell today seemed to take a shot at the president when he told the chamber of come measures louisville, kentucky,

brian: i think he is in louisville. steve: louisville. brian: is that what i said?alled louisville, not louisville. todd: they get mad when you go lewis ville or they want louisville. what's interesting is louisville is in jefferson county which went heavily for hillary clinton in the 2016 election. however it borders. so we came to this county to talk to the voters what they think. we start, of course, with bill. is he a trump voter. is he a small business owner. i want to talk to you about the monuments. the statues. you have a mixed view on that. explain. >> yeah. you know, i think, you know, it should be maybe a local issue. and, it gets to a point where, you know, everybody get their feelings a little bit too hurt on some stuff. and it should be a local issue. it shouldn't be for the vandals to be tearing it down at night. but we need to draw the line somewhere. todd: you also told me that from a small business owner perspective, you want to stop worrying about issues like monuments and statues. you want to focus on taxes. >> exactly. what they campaigned on wa

flood threat actually takes its way all the way into southern ohio, just south of cincinnati, so louisville, lexington, nashville and memphis in the next 48 hours up to 8 inches. remember, even though the rain has stopped in houston for now, you still have rivers that are going to rise. the way through this weekend and some places for weeks. watch as the river expands. this is the brazos river, the town of richmond, thompsons, all communities that could see flooding because they're expected to crest at 56. they just updated this. this water is moving so fast, 100,000 cubic feet per second and the runoff already in the gulf of mexico. >> okay, ginger, thanks. already 30,000 people have taken to houston shelters. 10,000 national guard troops will be deployed from across the country joining the 14,000 already there. abc's chief national correspondent tom llamas on the

i live in louisville, kentucky. i beg to disagree with you. the entire jewish community lived in a central area of louisville, which was very open at that time to german jews and especially polish jews. now, turning to your -- i'd like to present a slightly different perspective on this, rabbi. when i study the talmud and i perceive the obligations of a jew to the treatment of employees to the treatment of the relationships of other people, and i read the decisions of justice brandice as to how you treat your employees, and then when i look at justice c cardozo, not necessarily when he was on the supreme court but when i looked at his decisions on the court of appeals in new york and i see the salmon case, what is it the -- the requirement of honor among partners and the relationship of partners. then i see the fallsograph case, the proximate cause. what do these things result from? these are stem from talmudic lessons of how we have contractual relations, commercial relationships. so i can draw a relationship to the understanding of jewish la

was there. >> reporter: treasury secretary mnuchi mnuchin, and mitch mcconnell, appeared here in louisville to talk about tax reform. perhaps more important than what wa the trump administration has been at odds with mitch mcconnell in recent weeks, but mitch mcconnell made clear here in louisville he has a strong, working relationship with mnuchin and one point calling the treasury secretary an extraordinary individu that relationship will be critically important for the two men as they get into the hard fwoe mnuchin said president trump still remains fully committed to >> we're 100% committed to get it done. i think to think it's bipartisan support, some bipartisan support. the issues we're focused on, tax reform, are good for the american worker. they're good for the middle class. this is about making business competitive. and making business competitive is about making jo >> reporter: before they can get toreform, they have to deal with the debt ceiling. mcconnell was adamant that lawmakers will raise it. >> there's zero chance, no chance we won't raise the debt ceiling. no chance. amer

every month to six weeks his cousin alfred would send them a ham from louisville. my question was, there were no hams in boston? there would be these wonderful notes from brandeis saying thank you, the brandeis household is over joyed here. we just received your ham today, et cetera. >> i want to come back after we get done with the yiddish kite of all of the justices or at least the non-sitting justices. i want to get back to zionism. there's a very interesting story here. c cardozo a direct descendent of the only rabbi officiating at george washington's giving an invocation at his inauguration in 1790. he had been the first jew ever appointed to the board of governors of columbia university at the recommendation of alexander hamilton. one of his cousins was the deputy mayor of new york. >> we know about his -- but what about his believes, his practices? >> he too -- he belonged to what's called the spanish portuguese synagogue in new york. it's the oldest continuing synagogue in the united states. he belonged and when he was in new york he occasionally went on th

in louisville, kentucky, in louisville, what is interesting about this county and jefferson, it wentnton but there is a county right near us that went hard for donald trump so we will talk to people here about issues that matter, the afghanistan potential surge, what is going on with the monuments and the president's speech last night and martha maccallum later today, state fairs eat a lot of good food. we will what up her. i will do the big disney challenge, 3 pound burger, fries in 30 minutes. it will be interesting to see if i survive, "fox and friends" at the top of the hour. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. switch to flonase allergy relief. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. flonase helps block 6. most allergy pills only block one and 6 is greater than 1. with more complete relief you can enjoy every beautiful moment to the fullest. flonase. 6 is greater than 1 changes everything. rob: new york's liberal

all of this after the violent and deadly protests ensure louisville this weekend. nancy: and now family and friends are mourning in the city is praying for healing. anna-lysa gayle has the latest from charlottesville. anna-lysa: just take a look at some of the words written here as part of the memorial for those impacted by the violence saturday, uva nurses for heather. tonight many are figuring out how to prevent this from happening again. united in charlottesville monday jamesg, hours after fields junior appeared in court. he is accused of running his car into a group of counter protesters during a white nationalist rally, killing heather heyer and injuring dozens. two troopers died in a helicopter crash as they were monitoring the situation. >> how do we honor the life of this woman who was simply trying to stand up for our community as a whole. >> we need an explanation of what the police strategy was, because it was inefficient and ineffective. anna-lysa: the police chief admits this. >> we lost three lives this weekend. i certainly have regrets. >> a lack of

he came from a family who grew up in louisville, kentucky. his parents were german-speaking jews from prague. he was raised almost as a christian although both his parents were jewish. his mother said to admire the ethics of all religions and the rituals and observances of none, and in their home they never celebrated the jewish sabbath or christmas and hanukkah, rather, but christmas and brandeis continued in this condition and if i can tell two very short and quick anecdotes as an example. hopefully short. >> we don't want to give away the whole book. >> maybe i'll tell you one of them rather than two. okay. brandeis was a prolific letter writer and there were many volumes of his letters. 1900 his two young daughters were on vacation in the days before christmas in new york visiting relatives and brandeis wrote a letter to them saying please don't worry. the christmas tree is set up and santa claus will be here to greet you. >> the other thing i fund out he will -- his cousin alfred a hand from louisville. i wish there were these hand, we a

still another one in louisville we're debating on now.f lexington, kentucky has come out and said we should take down the monument. this is going on in towns all over the southern united states. there are confederate monuments everywhere. i suspect because of the weekend events, we're going to see more of these today. >> i don't think people who live in the north, people like me have any idea. >> exactly. >> how many memorials there are like this. here are a couple examples. in alabama, they don't celebrate martin luther king's birthday. they celebrate a joint martin luther king/robert e. lee holiday. there is a confederate memorial day holiday. a war to preserve slavery. and you go anywhere in the south, you go to the grounds in austin of the state capitol, there are enormous memorials to the confederate. i don't know where you would start, but you should start somewhere and get rid of them. >> interesting bilingual politically about the debate is there are so many democratic mayors of cities, it's a debate that is happening within the d

and those flash flood watches go through memphis, nashville, lexington and louisville, kentucky. compared to what has fallen in the south, this is south, but two to five inches widespread. isolated totals could be seven inches. if that happens in a short period of time in western tennessee and the hills, so watch out memphis to jackson up to louisville. those are the concerns for today. that's a look at the big weather story of the day. rain and thunderstorms will also be hit and miss through areas of alabama and georgia. we could have a few severe storms, maybe isolated tornadoes in mississippi. and and tropical storm irma will become a hurricane in the days ahead. >> bill, thank you. >>> other stories to tell you about. a federal judge has blocked texas from enforcing a tough new law in so-called sanctuary cities there. the law would have allowed police officers to ask immigratii immigration status. the so-called open carry sword law will allow texans to carry blades longer than 5 1/2 inches. and more than 20,000 took part hurling tomatoes at one another for an hour in spain. i

how do you make louisville a more compassionate city?e big values, life-long learning, health, and compassion means respect for chaufr one of our citizens. shining like the sun, is what thomas said. the dalai lama is a partner. >> you look across america in terms of legislators and mayors. there are more republicans than democrats. what does the democratic party have to do to regain his political momentum? >> you have to take care of business. that's what mayors do every day. cities are the home of 85% of our population. over 90% of our gdp. we don't see blue or red. we see opportunity. >> how do you speak to income inequality. issues that cause people to be fearful and turn to a range of -- not in their best interest? >> you take it directly on in the workplace to ask ourselves what is happening to the jobs.wh anmakeature that there are jobs that have good solid middle class wages. the way we do it now we're a few people are -- a lot of people are losing and it's not the solution. >> interesting. i mean, you're a democratic mayor in a s

the world in louisville is determination. going to let situations like this destroy our city or country. le we're going to work with basic human values. realizing we're imperfect people but we're in it together. >> mayor benjamin but do you believe unity can come from this president? do you believe he has done anything to unite america with the comments he made yesterday? >> poppy, i believe that in some odd almost perverse way some of what we're saying from the president is pulling people together. it's pulling a whole lot of folks in my community together who know this does not speak to the ideals of who america is. it doesn't speak to the critical words articulated in our declaration of independence. our u.s. constitution. the challenges that i will say here since i have a very brief moment, is that we're still trying to figure out how to make sure that millions of americans have havg health care: we're trying address trillions of dollars of needs across this country. we have a president who is focused on some shiny illegi

in louisville, the quote from him. there is zero chance -- no chance we will not raise the debt ceiling. to default.ot going we will get the job done. the secretary of the treasury at that event saying we will get the debt ceiling past. everybody understands this is not a republican or democrat issue. we need to be able to pay our debt. the right -- of these the right things your hearing from the administration and did believe this administration is on the same page as the president, the head of the administration? guest: i totally agree with the points of both senator mcconnell and treasury secretary mnuchin that were articulated there. they are saying the right thing. i think that is entirely appropriate. i think the secretary said summoned to the effect of we already spent this money raising the debt limit is about paying for it. if you spend the money then it's appropriate. we have to pay for it. that is what the treasury debt limit is about. i entirely agree. whether the president is on the same page, i don't know

they went back and forth between lexington and louisville. two people who are local judgs,s we're going to be going against those gentlemen who worked from the beginning to keep the capitol here time and time again. in the end they chose to keep frankfurt as the state capitol. this building was the only building occupied by the capitol. the confederates were inaugurating their governor in this building when they heard distant shelling, and they knew that the union army was coming the confederates inaugurated their second confederate governor in kentucky. as soon as it was complete they heard the shelling and went thsh they got out of town. they burned bridges as they were leaving town in order to keep those troops at bay. the union used this building as a barracks during the civil war right in this doorway is where they were inewing our ating. as we move around the room here, another reason this room is significant, there are original pieces in the room during the time they used the building. the representatives you see here are reproductions

we ask our treasury reporter, with us from louisville, kentucky, where mnuchin spoke earlier today.e gave a number of different comments on the economy. let us start with that letter over the weekend. the fact that he is staying with the administration -- he argued that he still has confidence in president trump, that he thinks his presence is important in the administration -- does that sort of lend some gravitas to the economic policy question? saleha: you know what? it does. from developing -- dissolving business councils to departures of the likes of gary cohn and steve bannon, that is riling financial markets. investors are trying to your out how much this administration can actually accomplished. in that light, the treasury secretary having to reaffirm that he is staying -- that is something no treasury secretary in recent history has had to do. he is proving to be one of the staunchest defenders of this president. that gives credibility to this economic agenda. they have a very busy september ahead. the debt ceiling needs to be raised before the end of september. this is the

these runaway fugitives who arrived from louisville kentucky they thought they'd found a safe refuge away from these bounty hunters. but with the passing of the 1850 slave act that you have to go little bit further. so these people are looking across you know detroit river to windsor and sometimes even windsor wasn't far enough. you had to keep going, amherst berg, chatham ontario, toronto, and of course chatham later on would be a profound, when you call community of abolitionists that were up there. we can talk about anderson who was one of the black men who rode with john brown. and when he stopped talking about the later. after the whole abolitionist beginning with william lambert, here is frederick, he comes to detroit and he meets with john brown in downtown. in a second baptist church, it was very instrumental in the end of course matthews would be instrumental later on. we cannot ignore the church and the whole coming together in terms of resistance. the whole idea of self-determination.it was coming from a number of church leaders who were affiliated with the abolitionist mo

how do you make louisville more compassiona compassionate? of our citizens o their human potential is flourishing, thriving, shining lie the sun. the dalai lama is part of our city because of efforts in compassion. >> when you look across america in terms o state legislators and mayors, there are more republicans than democrats. what does the democratic party have to do to regain? >> you have to take care of red. with see opportunity. >> how do you speak to income inequality? how do you see things that are not in one's own best interest. >> you ask yourself what's happening in these jobs and what can we do to make sure there are jobs that solid muddle klass wages to them. few people are winning and a lot of people are losing is not it. >> it's interesting you don't see red, you don't say blue. you're a democratic governor. you're in a state that has two very popular rupp senators hochl dow you stay a party for that long and be that successful in your state? >> working together is successful. getting things done is what it's all about. people

we'll have that debate. >>> as we go to break, more from this week's kentucky state fair in louisvillehought that the country had resolved a lot of these things back in 1865 or whenever the civil war was completed. but apparently not. >> i think people have got to stop being so thin-skinned. i think that people take fault at everything. the political correctness of the country is just getting way out wahhhh... right. in. your. stomach! watch this!... >>yikes, that ice cream was messing with you, wasn't it? try lactaid, it's real ice cream, without that annoying lactose. lactaid. it's the milk that doesn't mess with you. and i've never seen a better time to refinance your home, than this summer. why? because right now we're seeing our average customer save $20,000. but with the fed already talking about raising rates, this window will not last for long. lendingtree is the only place to compare up to 5 real refinance offers against your current mortgage - for free. are you sure you have the best rate? take 3 minutes and find out right now. because at lendingtree, when banks compete, you

and here in louisville, home of the kentucky derby, land of mitch mcconnell and rand paul, the peopleifferent take than those inside the beltway and in much of the media. the blue grass state went 62% for donald t

paul: carlton is from louisville, kentucky. good morning to you. caller: i was calling about where are the veterans administration has decided that they start cutting your conversation. i was receiving 100% and they cut me down to 70%. now, they are in the process, thinking about cutting down to 60%. can i get your comment on that? paul: any response to our guest? delphine metcalf-foster: there is no comment because we have what they call national service the ars at your local office, regional office. they are here to assist you so i would suggest that you give him 877-iam-avet and i'm sure they will assist you in that matter. paul: let's hear from another caller. illinois.m rossville, we are here with delphine metcalf-foster the head of disabled americans. caller: i am calling because there is still so much discussion about single-payer system for the united states and health reform and i would like the v.a. would support a single-payer system? there are problems, as the previous caller had described with decreasing reimbursements. i have heard fr

from louisville, kentucky, please welcome 14-year-old alexandra polur gold.cheers and applause] alexandra, nice to meet you. >> thank you, you too.

tell me about that distinction because that will go on in louisville about glorifying the confederacyarning from history and keeping them in their appropriate context because a lot of people are saying, these should be in museums. somebody tweeted me and said, do we get rid of the. civil war battlefields? how do you design context around this conversation? >> you can take the example i just gave. for the one 80-foot tall one that was in the middle of the city, to me and my committee, with 18,000 african-american students walking by, that's too much. there's currently discussion we're having of a man on a horse so to speak. he is a man in civilian clothes, but he was in the confederate army, and he was pardoned, and then he was in the united states army, and he was a city parks commissioner. should he stay or go in that represents the nuance of that time. any context should be fully explained so people can kind of understand what the tensions were back in the country at that point in time. >> how is the conversation being handled? i think mayors like you must be looking to charlottesvi

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