tough times going on. >> the owner of the dream hooka lounge has to become smoke free by tonight.ecided to shut down. other owners will convert to something else. the effort to shut down the hooka lounges which someone living nearby complained about the smoke and the noise. >>> more green space than any other municipality in the country. whether you are playing sports, getting the kids outside or walking the dog, you have an enemy, digging, tunneling, destroying the very ground beneath your feet. >> i want to get him. if i can't get him, i'll think about it. >> sometimes they pop their head out and you feel like they are teasing you. >> for the past 2 1/2 years, i've been catching a lot of gophers. >> from golden gate to crocker amazon park, she logged more than five years mowing lawns and pulling weeds for san francisco recreation and parks. then, she found her calling. >> i have a peta card. it's not like i enjoy killing the gophers, but i don't like them in the lawn since they do so much damage. having the mounds and so many tripping hazards. >> turf was overrun. a mind field o

yes, you really are watching vacationers racingngo reserve lounge chairs for a day of tanning.a war with roots we can trace back to may 8th, 1945, when the guns fell silent across europe. britain, the victor, was exhausted by war. west germany, the vanquished, rose again, phoenix like, terminator like. and, in the 1960s, with the advent of cheap vacacion packages to sunny spain, thehe o sides met again. they met pool side. battle recommenced over the seemingly innocuous lounge chair. >> the germans were getting up very early in the morning, 6:00 sometimes, prebreakfast, laying down their towels, reserving territory. >> reporter: now, 40 years later, look closely. they aren't all germans claiming territory. trust me, i can spot them from a distance. there are brits there, too. these days, brits returning from a night of drinking, dancing and ill considered coupling, will reserve their morning lounge chairs before they even stumble into bed. there's talk of brits sneering german towels with honey to attract insects. a brit sued his travel agent because his hotel was full of germa

>> the format is a high and cocktail lounge. that is -- no dancing. we are not going to have a dance floor. it is an entertainment. >> commisioner joseph: ok, no dance floor. >> that is correct. >> commisioner joseph: you can have three accidents and three security persons and one person will be on the sidewalk. and one person to check id's. how are you going to secure your doors? the other doors that are not covered? >> correct. shaw security, he really did an evaluation. he is my next-door neighbor and he has assured me that there will not be any issues. >> >> commisioner joseph: we have panic hardware so they can open from the inside? is that how you are going to secure them? >> i will look into that. i am really -- i believe what we're going after and what we are going to essentially, this is not what gravity is going after. we will make the changes any way shaw security wants is to. >> commisioner joseph: when do you think you'll open? >> the sound test, we're not wearing this place with -- wiring this place with amps, this is acoustic. we're not

. >>> san francisco moves to shut down hookah lounges and owners are smoking mad, that story is ahead. >>> closed captioning for the 10:00 news brought to you by mancini sleep world's best buys mattress sale. denim, graphic tees, leggings and tunics, more denim, backpacks, headphones, hair gel, denim, converse one star shoes, denim, shaun white hoodies and denim. school takes a lot. target has it all. >>> a foot soldier from san francisco killed in germany during world war ii finally came home today more than 60 years after he died in battle. ktvu's mike mibach attended today's service at the national cemetery in san bruno and tells us a surprise guest showed up. >> reporter: a procession for a young private draped by flags and salutes from fellow soldiers. a young san franciscan is finally back home and dozens of strangers young and old were waiting with open arms. >> he did serve his country gallantly and honorably. >> to the honor and memory of this man here is -- there's no words for it. >> reporter: edward o tool was a soldier with the army's 84th division killed in a world war i

>> we are at badlands, the starlight lounge, and other facilities. those are the primary nightclubs. >> i had a couple quick questions. the current venue as it exists, has it been troubled recently? >> shine is a small lounge and because of its location and demographic and its programming, we never had problems. we have no history of violence and no -- the only sound complete we had was six years ago. five years ago. even then it was a minor thing that was resolved. >> commissioner cavellini: southern police has requested you install a camera. is that the condition that you had? >> i am assuming mr. king did that with the agreement of the conditions. >> president newlin: is there anyone from the public? seeing none, commissioners? >> commisioner joseph: second. >> [roll call vote] >> commisioner joseph >> presid. next item, the approval of minutes. which is item 2, review and approve the minutes of june 28. any questions? any public comment? yes, sir, come forward. >> commisioner joseph: can i move to approve? same house, same call? >> president newl

the city is cracking down on hookah lounges. abc7, heather, reports. >> you fill it up with water about halfway. >> he demonstrates the hookah at his family's tobacco shop, which is next door to their hookah dream lounge. last year it was ordered to close down because of state and local lounge against smoking in enclosed workplaces. he said his dad put $100,000 into the lounge and isn't sure what to do next. >> a lot of families are going to go broke. who knows what's going to happen now. the hookah is a water pipe for smoking flavor order toe backcast through the same tube. they can share the same tobacco by sharing different mouthpieces. they say it's nothing like cigarette tobacco >> it's safe, not bad at all. >> the department of public health disagrees. >> a lot of science out there now shows the exposure from the hookah is equal, if not greater than cigarettes, and that's because of the number of people and the amount of time. >> the pride of the mediterranean restaurant on fillmore has a patio where it appears hookah smok

. >>> in some places hookah lounges are all the rage, but in san francisco the concept is going up in because in the city smoking indoors is illegal and the public health department says they have to shut down the doors. ktvu's david stevenson spoke with lounge owners today who said they did everything by the book. >> reporter: san francisco's hookah lounge went cold turkey today closing down from orders of the health department. >> this is hookah tobacco. it's really wet and moist. >> reporter: kamalas 4's dad had to lay off three employees after investing in the lounge and an air filtration system. >> now they're passing laws say you can't smoke indoors. >> reporter: the city recently amended its own law. the department of public health is now targeting 20 hookah lounges and investigating 20 others. >> environmental health since about 2009 has been investigating the claims of non- tobacco use and it found out a lot of the businesses are using tobacco products. >> reporter: public health inspector janine young says the county's department of small business is working with some lounge

in the meantime the city is shutting down hookah lounges, where some people are smoking mad. >> reporterokah bars are nothing knew in san francisco, this one has been in existence for 20 years. the health department is just now cracking down. in fact six out of 17 hookah lounges in the city are violating the law right now, because they have been told that their permits don't allow indoor smoking. >> we are past a year of letting and informing our businesses know they cannot smoke in an enclosed area they cannot smoke without an exemption of the department of public health. >> reporter: also allow hookah lounges to exist where people live joup stairs. >> i've worked here for six years. >> reporter: san francisco health department officials say people are complaining the laws are being broken. since the late 1990s, smoking has been against the law inside enclosed work places but because hookah lounges fell into a category of its own, many continued to operate. >> i think that anyone that's coming to this restaurant knows that it's a hookah bar, so they are coming here because they are maki

you walk in, and high and cocktail lounge, two pool tables, a shuffleboard table. you cannot move the pool tables out. you cannot move the 900 pound shuffle puck out. we are going with a high and bar with entertainment. -- end bar with entertainment. >>> commissioner meko: good luck. >> i hope you come by. >> can you walk me through the four plan -- for plan? if you bring in a band, i am trying to figure this out. >> we have elevated -- a broad iron fence which is open in three locations with couches and tables up there. you go up 20 feet from there and there is a communal table which is about 9 feet -- 8 feet wide and 4 feet. it will work well for a trio or something like that. on the other side, on the left side, there is going to be a couch. >> is this around here, where you are -- you can put it on the microphone -- microfilm. it should pull in a second. -- up in a second. there you go. >> there you go. over a little more. >> perfect. >> essentially, this is the entrance and the band or the dj set up would be here. we would take the communal table and break it

the city is now cracking down on hooka lounges. heather reports now. >> you fill it up with water about halfway. >> reporter: he is demonstrating the hooka at his family's tobacco shop that is next to their hooka dream lounge. it just opened last year. but they were ordered to close down because of smoking laws in enclosed workplaces. he says his dad put $100,000 into the lounge, and he isn't sure what to do next. >> a lot of families are going to go broke who knows what will happen now. >> reporter: it is a pipe for smoking flavored tobaccos through a long tube. multiple smokers can use the same hooka with different mouth pieces. he says it is nothing like cigarette tobacco. >> it is safe. it is not bad at all. >> but the department of public health disagrees. >> a lot of science reports are out right now that the exposure from the hooka is equal if not greater than cigarettes, and that's because of the number of people and the amount of time. >> the pride of the mediterranean restaurant has a patio where it appears the hooka smok

the city is cracking down on hookah lounges. heather reports. >> you fill it up with water about halfway. >> he demonstrates the hook kau at his family's tobacco shop, which is next to their dream lounge. last year it was ordered to close down because of state and local lounge against smoking in workplaces. he said his dad put $100,000 into the lounge and isn't sure what to do next. >> a lot of families are going to go broke. who knows what's going to happen now. >> the hook kau is a water pipe for smoking flavor order toe backcast through the same tube. they can share the same tobacco by sharing different mouthpieces. >> it's safe, not bad at all. >> the department of public health disagrees. >> a lot of science out there now shows the exposure from the hook kau is equal, if not greater than cigarettes, and that's because of the number of people and the amount of time. >> the pride of the mediterranean restaurant on fillmore has a patio where it appears hookah smoke can continue. this man said his favorite flavor is cherry. >>

. >> hooka lounges have been ordered to shut down or become smoke free. they have also been told to get rid of all tobacco products. the city says the lounges violate city and state bands on indoor smoking. >> three people are going to get laid off and we're going to lose another business. it's going to be a lot of tough times beginning on. >> the oner of the dream heeka lounge has to be smote by the end of business tonight. they decided to shut down. other owners will fight the city or convert to others. people complained about the smoke and the noise. >>> safeway just lost a fight to sell cigarettes in san francisco. a federal judge dismissed the law which argued the constitution stores have a institutional right to sell smokes. the city's ban usually -- that law has been expanded because another court stated the exception vie lats equal protection guarantees. >> trying to get areas in an area known for speed to hit the brakes. in this day and age, there's one thing to get attention. that's fine. what it could cost you going barreling down? >> and forge

. >>> san francisco lounges are going in smoke and owners say they are being unfairly targeted. yesterday the dream hookah lounge was the latest to be shut down by the health department. 17 other hookah lounges are also told to shut down for allegedly violating the city's and state's bans on smoking indoors. another 20 are being investigated. o.j. simpson say the charges don't make sense. >> the city allowed us to open up a hookah lounge and now they're saying you can't smoke indoors. >> but they might have -- not have to close their doors permanently. the department of small businesses is working with some lounge owners to operate in a smoke-free environment. and anyone in a commercial building built before december 21, 2009 can apply future a license to allow smoking in and enclosed space. >>> the new jersey man accused of stealing a picasso from a san francisco art gallery is scheduled to return to court next month. a judge ordered us not to show his face as he appeared in court yesterday. he pleaded not guilty to stealing a quarter million dollar sketch from a union square a

health officials are want to close down all local, lounges in california.e board of supervisors amended to include all launches into floating look of lounges this is what one owner and a >> it is a wrong decision again for small businesses i tried to fight napoleon as best as i could appoint it is the freedom of the choice. >> the guy is one of my favorite thing is relax a bull who. >> facing up to five better dollar finds and closures. our gas guy is still on outside we will be back with a full bay forecast when we outside we will be back with a full bay forecast when we return if your kids want to sound cool, they have to look cool! so, here's what they'll need: denim, graphic tees, leggings and tunics, more denim, backpacks, headphones, hair gel, denim, converse one star shoes, denim, shaun white hoodies and denim. school takes a lot. target has it all. whoa!! the really big chicken and it's as big as ever. i'm gonna jump it! you can't jump that! it's two chicken patties, topped with bacon, and melting cheese plus seasoned curly fries and a drink for onl

. >>> about 20 hukka lounges had remained open. today the dream hooka lounge closed its doors. >> tourists doesn't like it. there's too much smoke coming and they're open till midnight, almost 2:00, 3:00. >> it is working with lounge owners to find smoke free ways to operate. >>> park officials have voted to support a plan to preserve a culturally sensitive area in vallejo. native american activists oppose construction of park facilities on the site of an ancient burial ground. the park manager told ktvu the board supports a plan to make an easement on city land. >>> the shoreline around lake tahoe is shrinking. as that lake continues to fill up, ken pritchett is live to explain what's going on and also the positive impact that we might see for the next few years. >> reporter: this is a fairly good sized beach here at south lake tahoe but it should be even bigger. it should extend about 20 feet out into the water. it did last year and it's certainly happened before. many of the people we talked to today say they can't remember the

the lotus lounge assault was from off beat washington d.c. cops working as boundaries. >> reporter: lotus has a troubled history and so does the owner. he has not responded to the numerous requests for an interview. but we have obtained a slew of documents, among them records that detail the alleged assault at some of his high profile clubs and a civil suit against him because of one of the alleged assaults. and tax liens that he owed to the irs. this video shows a street fight outside low tis lounge last month. three women attempt to break it up by hitting them with their high heels. the height is the latest outbreak of violence at the downtown washington nightclub. and it happen two weeks after former football player lost his eye in an attack, a vicious beating that allegedly involved three metropolitan police officers moonlighting at the club. they have since been placed on administrative leave. we have obtained records related to lotus lounge and four other washington d.c. nightclubs owned by romeo. lotus has a history of violence. and he

>> the format is a high and cocktail lounge. that is -- no dancing. we are not going to have a dance floor. it is an entertainment. >> commisioner joseph: ok, no dance floor. >> that is correct. >> commisioner joseph: you can have three accidents and three security persons and one person will be on the sidewalk. and one person to check id's. how are you going to secure your doors? the other doors that are not covered? >> correct. shaw security, he really did an evaluation. he is my next-door neighbor and he has assured me that there will not be any issues. will not be any issues. >> >> commisioner joseph:

(laughter) ek: so i begged them to give me six chaise lounges, which i don't think i got. i think i got something like three or four. and as i was singing whatever the words were, i don't remember them right now, but i would come on to the stage on the chaise lounge and i would do whatever . da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, dee-dee-da-da-da, monotonous for what it's worth, throughout the earth, i'm known as (overlap/inaudible) . (laughter) (applause) ek: . comes up like thunder, brother/bring back the taj mahal! (applause) ek: now you know why i'm called the most exciting woman in the world. (laughter) q: i . i just love showbiz. (laughter) q: this could not be better. ek: (laughs) q: i'll be sitting over here. (laughter) ek: after crawling across these chaise lounges, by the time i got to the other end of the stage, they had to write three or four more verses because the audience loved it so much. so thank you very much, thank you very much, thank you very much. (applause) q: many, many people when they hear your name immediately think of catwoman. ek: (

health officials and san francisco are looking to shut down all hookah lounges, they allow people to smoke indoors even though smoking indoors has been banned in businesses since the 1990's and some owners are upset about it. >> hookah owners say it is an important part of the night like culture as well as an ethnic customs. >> we invest a lot of time and money to create this in the united states, and as you see 99 percent of our customers, they all need a release, and they come here they fill home. >> this is popular in the middle east and south asia and it has a following here in america. >> is what my favorite things to do in my free time because it is relaxing. >> mohammed says that he may end up closing his business. >> i think this is a wrong decision again that the city is making for the small businesses i try to fight for as much as i could. >> the lounges will face fines up to $500 in eventual closure if they do not comply. >> it is never did a u- turn 100 in two years old. tonight, this young lady is selling her birthday along with her family. she is in a school teacher dur

. >> and a man that was shot and killed by bart police was not running or lounging another two officers when they opened fire on him. i'm terry mcsweeney in for eric thomas. >> i'm kristen sze. >> it's 4:30. >> east bay mud officials had to shut down a broken water main after a lafayette man found water flowing into his home. it happened around 2:00 a.m. the water flowed half a block and down into a hill into a home. nelson said he woke up thinking he could hear a creek. >> i put my shoes on and went to the living room and saw the sliding glass door and there was five inches of water. >> his garage was also flooded damaging several boxes of personal items. his family had not unpacked everything since moving in. >>> in contra costa county, they are investigating a shooting on a popular pittsburg walking trail that left a man in critical condition. it happened on the delta de anza trail. the victim was shot in the back of his head. both east bay regional park police and pittsburg police are investigating the circumstances surrounding the shooting. amy hollyfield will have a live report in

. >> help officials in san francisco are moving to shut down all hookah lounges.re fired up about it. >> three lounges have been ordered to stop serving hookah the water pipes used to smoke tobacco but owners say that it is a part of the night culture as well let's ethnic customs. >> we invest about time, energy and money to create in this atmosphere in the united states. as you can see, 99 percent of our customers they all indeed release, and when they come here they feel home. >> these water pipes are popular in the southeast and middle ages and have a following in the bay area. >> this is what my favorite thing to do in my free times, it is relaxing. many people that come down to the hookah lowndes, it is easy to talk around them. >> mohammed says that he may end up closing his business. >> i think this is another wrong decision that the city is making for the small businesses and i tried to fight for as much as i could. >> owners of two more loungers are scheduled to appear at hearings sometime this week. the lounges face fines up to $5,000 in eventual closure

. >>> a bat sell brewing in san francisco between public health officials and so-called hooka lounges they were ordered to shutdown today. 20 loungees are told to go smoke free or close their doors while 20 others are under investigation over claims of nontobacco use. owners are outraged. they invested a lot of money in the businesses and followed city laws. >> the city allowed us to open up the lounge and a year later saying you can not smoke indoors. >> smokers may not have to go cold turkey. tobacco shops operating in commercial buildings before 2010 can apply for a license for allowing smoking in an enclosed space. >>> a soldier from san francisco, killed during world war ii, arrived in his resting place 65 years after his death. dozens of mourners, young and old, who never knew the 23-year- old tool were on hand for the burial. he was killed during battle in germany of 1944. his body was never recovered. then, two years ago a german citizen found remains in a forest. they were later identified as his. today, he received full military honors at his service. >>> there is word tonig

hookah at polk street tobacco shot which is next door to hookah dream lounge.says his dad put $100,000 into the lounge and isn't sure what to do next. >> a lot of families are going to go broke. who knows what is going to happen. >> its water pipe for smoking flavored tobaccos through a long tube. multiple users can use different mouthpieces. they say it's nothing like cigarette tobacco. >> but the department of public health disagrees. >> there is a lot of science that exposure from the hookah is equal not greater than cigarettes because of the number of people and amount of time. >> the pride of mediterranean restaurant on fillmore has a patio where the smoking can continue. his favorite flavor is cherry. >> after that, once in a while with family. >> a health inspector says she sent letters to 20 enclosed hookah businesses. kathy has until tuesday to remove all smoking equipment and they were ordered to stop immediately. they probably won't be going out as much. >> in your own home and you can smoke in housing unit. you can smoke in your own unit as long as

and he showed me there was the big show rooms but outside there was the lounges.nt acts that played the lounge, but the more seasoned acts of quality played on the main stage inside. i remember last year when we led a big march in washington commemorating dr. king's i have a dream speech, glenn beck was at lincoln memorial with a huge march, tens of thousands of people. and a lot of people with me were a little upset as i was at his, in my opinion, not respecting the principles of the speech. but notwithstanding that, i wasn't too concerned about his day in the stun lasting. because of james brown, i knew the difference between those who have a lounge act and those who play the main room. see, the problem glenn is, you have to have something to say to stay. blackboards crying, all of that doesn't work in the main room. that's "the ed show." i'm reverend al sharpton filling in for ed shultz. you can find me every day from 1:00 to 4:00 listings time. go to nationalactionnetwork.net.

>> we are looking and venues that have been operating illegally such as hookah lounges that are also doing entertainment. they are on our list for operating without a permit, and on their list for operating without a permit as a smokehouse. vice chair joseph: you are not going after regular clubs? >> no. >> regarding 620 jones, not so much the battery -- isn't that pete's place? >> and it is not permitted by us. it does not have entertainment. >> i think even before i started on the commission, he was here applied for the permit. that is not the haystacks -- the case? >> was it for public works? i cannot remember. he submitted an application and withdrew it. >> they did submit an application and did withdraw it. >> he has no entertainment? >> correct. >> at 620. correct. >> no deejay. >> no d j, no band, no live music. the business model for 620, and mike public works, which is paid -- which is a club -- it is really a lounge restaurant. we have actually inspected it a few times and not found anything. president newlin: i had one question. are we seeing any payment of fines coming in

i visit a lot of schools, and some of the teachers just lounge, have the students do whatever. it is not really helping students to be educated and to have more knowledge. it is like professors at the universities are getting paid, and teachers who are supposed to teach us and motivate us to continue higher education, you know, are just sort of lounging. it is sort of backwards. i feel like once the teachers understand it our way, that they should get paid more. they should not have to have a side job to support themselves to be like, "ok, i am going to teach my students, i'm going to get the supplies come get them books." they should get paid more so they do not have to look for that money in their families and other things. >> my first one is prioritize youth when it comes to distributing the budget. the second would be to change the education system. i feel like currently, the teacher lectures, i do homework, and i take tests, and that is how my grade is determined. i wish classes were more hands- on. i feel like a lot of people forget everything they learn after the test, s

the city is cracking down on puke a lounges. the places are very popular with teenagers all over the bay area. story tonight from heather. >> filth up with water about halfway. >>reporter: demonstrates the hook a at family tobacco shop right next door to the hoobing a dream lounge just opened last year ordered to close did you know as of today because of state local law against smoking in enclosed workplaces. he says his dad put 100,000 dollars into the lounge and isn't sure what to do he nichblingts a lot of family will go broke and who knows what will happen now. >>reporter: this is a water pipe for smoking flavored tobacco through a long tube. multiple smokers can share the same hookah with different mouth pieces. he says it's nothing like cigarette tobacco. >> it's safe. not bad at all. >>reporter: but the department of public health disagrees. >> a lot of science reports out rate now that tebltion posh l from the hookah is equal if not greater than cigarettes that's because of the number of people and the amount of time. >>

the city is cracking down on hookah lounges. >> we are at a restaurant in the haigt. the owner says this has been a thriving business 20 years thanks to the draw of the hookah pipes. the smoke product is a combination of tobacco molasses and fruit flavoring. the city says tobacco is a problem it just closed doors on a couple other hookah bar autos you fill witness water. >> he demonstrates the hookah at a tobacco shop next door to the hookah dream lounge ordered to close down because of laws against shocking in a closed work place. he says his dad put $100,000 into the lounge and isn't sure what to do next. >> a lot of families are going to go broke. and who know what's is going to happen now. >> the hookah is a water pipe for smoking flavored tobaccoes through a tube. multiple smokiers can share using different mouthpieces. he says it's nothing like cigarette. >> it's not bad. >> but the department of public health disagrees. >> a lot of signs report that exposure from the hookah is equal, if not greater than cigarettes because of the number of people and the amount

we visited predominantly hookah lounges. while we were included in this particular evening, many do entertainment without appeal. they have a tendency to stay open very least without extended hours. i was able to find ourselves in an interesting situation and educate a little bit, and give warnings where needed. the same time, i was there with the smoking ordinance enforcement committee that was basically telling them they were out of business anyway. as they began to change their business plan or business model to more of a restaurant. both events happened without any major incidents that was very good. i believe it was the biggest we have had it today. we have not gotten the formal numbers on friday at. it was also very big. the saturday, a cut was well organized and well run. there were a few logistical challenges just because of the volume of people coming through that should be looked at for future years. again, there was no major incidents of violence. the demographics of the crowd attending these is much younger than

>> a witness of sun's fatal shooting at the bart station now says the suspect was not running or lounging at officers when they shot at him. they report a person says that the suspect looked like a drunken pippie. she was getting off a train and saw the incident from about 30 to 40 feet away. bart police said the suspect was aggressive and was holding a broken bottle and knife. the officers are now on leave while the investigation continues. >>> water setback on for hundred homes and businesses in downtown lafayette after a water main break last night left them dry all morning long. it happened at the intersection mount diablo boulevard and lafayette. while the water is back on to all affected customers say a near permanent line will not be in place until late tonight. >> president obama is calling the debt crisis meeting with congressional leaders very productive but he says the parties are far apart in how to reduce the deficit. >> everybody acknowledged there is going to be pain involved politically on all sides but our biggest obligation is to make sure we're doing the right thing by

>> a witness of sun's fatal shooting at the bart station now says the suspect was not running or lounging at officers when they shot at him. they report a person says that the suspect looked like a drunken pippie. she was getting off a train and saw the incident from about 30 to 40 feet away. bart police said the suspect was aggressive and was holding a broken bottle and knife. the officers are now on leave while the investigation continues. >>> water setback on for hundred homes and businesses in downtown lafayette after a water main break last night left them dry all morning long. it happened at the intersection mount diablo boulevard and lafayette. while the water is back on to all affected customers say a near permanent line will not be in place until late tonight. >> president obama is calling the debt crisis meeting with congressional leaders very productive but he says the parties are far apart in how to reduce the deficit. >> everybody acknowledged there is going to be pain involved politically on all sides but our biggest obligation is to make sure we're doing the right thing by