words that would be forever linked to commander jim lovell. >> when the explosion occurred i thoughtow? and for a little while i couldn't believe what was happening and then all of a sudden i said it is me. it is now. so what's next? >> the command module's normal supply of electricity light, water, all lost. there was no heat source. they were 200,000 miles from earth and going in the wrong direction. >> did you actually ever think i might die? >> well we thought our chances were about 10%. >> did you really? >> oh, yeah. when we realized after we saw the oxygen escaping that things could be really bad. >> we have out into space. >> as the world watched ground control in houston faced a formidable task. think of a way to fix the spaceship and test and write out step by step procedures for thes a tra-- the astronauts to follow just to get home. >> we had to do in the simulator what is they had to do in the damaged apollo xiii spacecraft to get them home. >> one was to use the lunar module, the craft used to shuttle to and from the moon as a sort of light bulb. >> we had the lunar mod

raids to secretary rumsfeld but then they said every time we go after a commander i have reached lovell of approval see you can imagine what that did sometimes they are aware sometimes it is on purpose but they were going out to within to change how we conduct things it is a tough problem. >> but obviously the technology is for the president or anyone in the cabinet is an operation you do in the field. how does that change things? >> we have a lot of discussions about drones with the effect on modern warfare. it is said it. >> it is a career force rather than all 45. but with technologies to allow things from afar. i am not and though one of the reasons i take a reference with the notion that special forces guys are out there kicking in doors willy-nilly. aside from predator drones there is in the elaborate process but to the point that there argue. our inaction had fallen -- i have had a little time in afghanistan with the combat and the command. >> cathode do we fix the policy? errors rise in national security forces and police can take care of this problem at the same time we're sitt

>> we did not go into balance lovell of detail that we noted the importance of investing in both thedefensive and offensive capabilities and urged the department to move forward with modernization to improve cooperation with the private sector. i will give you my personal views. attracting talent is one of the biggest challenges to the couple ways to go at it. one is used for incentives or pay schedules and was to develop a contract relationships in and one-third is with the garden reserves to have this expertise in the commercial sector are patriots and may want to contribute to national defense but they will not lead silicon valley to join full time. sova to leverage on weekends for annual training is to be available to be mobilized with the national urgency we need to think creatively about those arrangements. there maybe some pilot programs but the human capital to mention. >> i am aware of efforts in the private sector that is a terrific idea to tray wounded four is -- wounded warriors to become cyberwarriors they would like to get back into the field but they cannot but this is

across the nation but certainly the push back is significant for a local jurisdiction to have al lovell of independence that they believe will do a better job to provide police services than a larger agency might. it is certainly worthy of for their conversation but there is of some of our disparate. >> those headed did this an issue there are a lot of counties in the country but where you have a police department with the township for a borough that is where it is needed. >> i have a question relating to these models of right now one certify a is officers to created a database so that raises a flag so that other agencies across the state and across the country can use that as a screening before hiring that officer. in most dates it seems there is the potential to certify officers it seems hard to do that. so i am wondering with the states that we see with this certification model, how often do we see officers get decertified? and what can we do with this recommendation so that when officers are not doing their jobs and violating civil rights there held accountable? ; me clarify my prim

. >> you lovell andtravel and you put a water bottle on it. >> 30 seconds. >> this is a shoehorn. >>n. this is a microphone and that is to talk in. >> hello? >> what is happening here? >> she's talking to me on her hands. i'm serious. cease talking she's talking to me on her hand. >> that's the microphone. you can hear in the thumb. >> we'll be right back. >>> tomorrow, the very dashing very handsome hugh grant sits down with us. >> also a performance by kay michelle. >> and the skin care mistakes a lot of people are making and how to correct them. >> and then a preview of the pooches of the westminster dog show. >> we have a big show. >> play along with us tomorrow. have a great "boozeday tuesday," everybody. you know what tomorrow is. >> what day is it? >> "winesday wednesday." >> have an awesome one, everybody. life's morning multitasking. it's multiple ideas for growing families and drawers with many layers to show exactly what you need. life's the food that brings us together. and kitchens where every meal is the most important of the day. >>> breaking news is in antioch where a