. >> hinojosa: and you did this project on the lower east side of new york city. what happened? are there homeless vehicles out there still, krzysztof? >> not right now. but it was a very important attempt to create conditions for those who have homes, homeful people, to imagine that there would be 100,000 homeless vehicle taking over the city, because that was the amount of homeless people at that time in new york city. so that's an impossible vision. so in a way it created perception of something that should not happen. >> hinojosa: right. you made the homeless... that's what you did, is that with this homeless vehicle that was really noticable, you made the homeless entirely visible to everyone. >> legitimate members of urban community who work day and night and use proper equipment for it. they are not scavengers. and also they can say something-- how it happened that they became homeless-- if they are asked. it's quite an important attempt actually not to legitimize the homelessness, but to articulate that this is a legitimate problem. >> hinojosa: krzysztof, it seems like

lower east side, to williamsburg and it keeps getting pushed out. is there ever going to be a physical location of bohemia in new york city in the future, and if so, where? >> i will take a shot at that question. the next neighborhood would be philadelphia or baltimore or buffalo. [laughter] so these are -- we lack about it -- we laugh about it but it connects back to the idea of 10 people actually live here and in in a way new york has become a more interesting place because little bits of bohemia exist in every neighborhood whether you are in brooklyn, staten island, manhattan or queens. but this is not a trivial concern and it's not going to be solved by building more 40 or 50 story towers. >> many people think that the opportunity to re-create this is always there. >> please give us your name. >> my name is margaret. my concern, i would like to hear some discussion of the difference in speaking with creative anarchy using creative spaces. how does it work out when different groups want to use public spaces in different ways at the same time, ashley when it has to do with different ethnicities and cultures and some people like peace and quiet verses

lower east side, williamsburg, bushwick. it keeps getting pushed out. is there ever going to be a physical location of bo doe hemoya in new york city? and if so, where? >> the next neighborhood would be philadelphia or -- [laughter] or buffalo. so these are, you know, we laugh about it, but it's not a trivial concern, you know? and this connects back to the idea of can people actually live here, afford to live here, right? you know, in a way new york has become a much more interesting place because little bits of bohemia exist in every neighborhood whether you're in brooklyn or staten island or manhattan or queens. but this is not a trivial concern, and it's not going to be solved by building more 40 and 50-story towers. >> everywhere somebody's sitting out on a stoop hanging out, i've got to say they think the opportunity to recreate those conversations is always there, and that's such a dynamic place to live. >> if you could just give us your name. >> yeah. my name is margaret. my concern, i'd like to hear some discussion of the difference -- speaking of public creative anarchy using public spaces, how is it worked out when different groups want to