that if the state rules change, and suddenly it does not require a pe credential for the board to a lowrotc to meet the pec -- pe requirements, can we propose some language to do that? >> the answer is yes. you can include as part of the motion that should be c either thetc or any other state lot -- that either the ctc or any other state law will change that that would be considered as an amendment. commissioner: i would like to hear what my colleagues think. i do not think any of us think that the independent study is the perfect solution. to my mind, it was a main purpose solution to the problem. if this board does support rotc and generally supports the principle that we should allow the course to substitute for the pe requirement, we could revert our policy back without us having to take this up and do this charade every time. president mendoza: i think we understand what you're saying. commissioner maufas: there are a couple of things that i wanted to voice. first of all, i appreciate vice president yee's amendment. it is just needed. the issue, myself being a board member that did not