lois. >> i know, but actresses can -- lest i be slapped. i love bradley woodford.onderful guest on this program over the years. cool. when you talk about divorce, obviously bradley woodford's name pops in my head for obvious reasons. i wonder based on what i've read to what extent if at all you blame art, your craft, in part for that? if you are willing to talk about this, if you don't want to, i'll move on. if you blame art for that, and how as an artist you -- you have to assess blame on the thing that both of you chose as your careers? does that make any sense? >> yes, it does. >> am i out of bounds? >> no, no. there's a big difference between art and show business. >> okay. fair enough. i accept that. >> you know, bradley and i were both from wisconsin. we met in new york. he was doing shakespeare at lincoln center with my great friend, kate burton. and you know, we met and had a very, very happy many, many years. he had gone to juilliard, i went to yale. we had a similar idea of what we wanted to do with our craft and lives. there was no internet. you know, yo