she said you will go to loyola academy, you will do football. cil, become popular, go to college, graduate, get a good job. this is the american dream. >> you know, at loyola, there weren't that many koreans. in my class, there were five of us. and just to give you an example, out of those five, i think four of us were in the math club. and andy was playing football. he was like them, basically. he looked like me. i mean, he didn't look exactly like me, but he was korean, came from an immigrant family. yet he was a leader in this school that i felt like i was such an outsider in. he was really a star at that high school. andy was a very striking person. he was the type of person that you would remember if you met him back then. and something so tragic happened. i think people with a lot of painful things that are going on in their lives sometimes really come up with a good front. and i think he channeled a lot of his energy, a lot of his pain into becoming that person and i think he was very good at it. >> no. you don't talk about stuff like that