and a professor at loyola marymount. that's a great question. a lot of the groups do have very differing opinions. because this is a hobby. no one is getting paid. everybody is doing it voluntarily and there's a lot of time commitment, and you sort of need like almost a theater company i was a. you need a benevolent dictator really to kind of say look, the romans, there are probably 25 legions or so in the united states. that's what they're called, and their regional. you are a part of your local legion, let's say, and what you have there are people who want to do it for different reasons. they are researching things and finding out different things and correcting each other, and so there is, there can be this very contentious, and i was on a few yahoo! message boards and i would see these flaming back and forth, just call each other out on stuff. and i think any and it's it's probably good to have that sort of dialogue. i'm a, it can probably be wrote some of the groups, but just because you are into this 80s into this and doesn't mean you're a