those lpholes, $7 out of every $10, go to the top quintile of income. what you are doing is you are changing the way in which the irs is collecting tas, and doing it in a rational way that is infinitely more fair. >> it took yeaears to do the reagan reformer plan. taken away loopholes in theory but it is not going to work out that way. no cuts to defense for theand for the poor, t the disabled, the middle classes, structural things for the country -- i suspect that is not something people want. >> anyone who was had a serious lo of the budget has said the same thing. you cannot have only tax cuts. inde -- you need revenue enhancers. ryan is being true to his principles. this is not a disservice to romney. this is what romney wants, toooo.. they rely heavily on cutting discretionary spending, which wouldld make it harder on the poor they want to increase defense spending. the same old thing we saw -- >> with all due respect, that is completely wrong. when you say there are no revenue enhancers liberalals think that if you t rates, you cut taxes. it is co