lpta is not working as you just described. in addition, we have had cases in the security world where lives are at stake where people did not set aside the requirement and we said why have you awarded them another six or seven contracts and they came here and they said they were lpta and you said but what about your past performance and they sat there and kind of scratched the table. so i'm not -- you know, the point you want to make is well, it's working. well, it's not. >> i'm not saying it's working. >> okay. >> we'll end with that note. >> now, i have one other point that i want to make. i didn't get to the point but i'll make two statements. and you can respond at your leisure. >> first let me just make this point. you will not be here for the second round of questions so we'llist let you go around a little longer. >> the point what i brought you earlier and i noticed you were, admiral, was that should we be paying in our cost type environment and i'm not talking about the lpta, the afghan first program and people don't n