names under lra. he's a democrat. very thoughtful guy. went to usc. he grew up in south central l.a. all friends that he hung out with were gang members. he fortunately given the opportunity to go across town to a different school, and he saw how the other side was brought up and he decided, know what? i'm either going to go this road, the bad road, or i'm going to go this road. and he made it. he made it out. but he talks about culture. yeah, the culture of violence. he calls it. you picked up on that in your book. talk about that. well, i mean, you know, i think and i that the key point to weigh in on here because you know, people on the other side, us in this debate will say, well, how do you explain if, in fact, poverty unrelated to criminal standing, how do you explain the fact that so many offenders are poor? and what i think they're getting wrong is the direction in which the causation runs. right. like, yes, it is true that a large portion of offenders are, you know, people who either come from poverty or who come from relatively low socioecon