. >> lrtd. we're literally out of time but i'm not going to pay attention to that.who has a question or two? right here. right there. >> hi. my name is ben levine with metro lab network. i'm struck after this election by the politically, the urban/rural divide in terms of candidates that different folks are supporting. and we now have a situation where both the executive and lifting branches in congress have been elected by overwhelmingly rural and sort of post-industrial voters. i also look at the republican platform that looks to zero out transit and talks about how urbanization is sort of social engineering. and so i'm just curious to hear from the mayors, both democrat and republican, how do you think about sort of the future of urbanization in light of the new administration? >> well, not too many people live in rural, washington, d.c., but -- >> zero. >> lucky. >> yeah, the rural/urban divide is real. it's been well chronicled, and it plays out in our state legislatures, you know, frequently. but i'm not seeing a disconnect. i haven't seen a study that says ru