you can get it directly from lsc. if you have not gotten it, my office would be happy to give it to you. but the data is there. >> thank you. we have looked very carefully at the data provided by the department of public health on the health care security ordinance more broadly. the question still remains on the mayor's mind, focusing back on health care access, is of those hra's, are they restricted so that employees cannot use that money to buy into private insurance or into healthy san francisco? that data, as far as i know, does not exist. and that is precisely the data we would like to collect. a corollary to that, the business community, we have been in close contact with over the past weeks in debating this policy, the business community itself has stated that they are willing to encourage, within their own community, a change to how these hra's are set up, to encourage the ability to draw down the funds to pay for health insurance and healthy san francisco. supervisor campos: the problem with that, and i trust

now he says he will take the meals lsc can come to see me when my husband is away. here's my question. what should i do to save the meals? now, it's hard to imagine a citizen putting the sense of a personal question to any president including barack obama , but i think this tells you something about the deep personal affinity that millions of americans fell for fdr. tell the privilege, product of a harvard education, amanda groped servants on the family estate in upstate new york. tells you not only something about his personality and how he projected the sense that he cared about americans in all walks of life and all socio-economic glasses, but about the time. a unique time in our history when america had been beaten down by an economic crisis so lengthy and so crushing that even the wealthiest businessmen and the most experienced political leaders that we had a literally thrown up their hands and declared that they had no answers. so roosevelt alive in the white house having declared quite candidly that he didn't have the answers either, but that he was going to

fact that he had the letters of recommendation from the general of the bbc and the president of the lsc and everything to get the job to help more time britain she was turned down and that was in the turning point of history they should have used hayek. a great insight into germany and austria and extraordinary brain was able to tackle things like rationing, practical things you might need to do in the wartime society. but anyway, they said no thank you, and the result was he devoted the war to write what he thought was he was aiming at more to the left than the right. what he was anxious about when the war was over that because the war had been seen to cure unemployment and a keynesian way that the government would increase the size of the state wholesale and he thought there lay the danger of the soviet communism he was more worried about because it had been cured or defeated so that is exactly what he set about trying to do. >> host: and the vicious utilitarianism as a result of the growth of government it wasn't a sort of cozy social democracy. it was a nasty brutal regime. >> guest

keynes and hayek thing, so the problem was that hayek was brought in by lionel robins, a specialist at lscught to to counter keynes. it was set up in the first place for what could be a very interesting battle. robin already had a battle with keyness in the bank of england committee or government committee about the use of the bank of england, and that started off pretty sharply. he was to remember, of course, this is not your gentle to and fro of an argument in a bar. this is pretty high flown stuff fought on tough measures. his stock and trade really was sarcasm. that's what he -- he had attacks on people and sarcasm on people who protected him. they literally buttoned up. his jacket had three buttons, and he was a very well mannered, both brought up to treat each other properly, but when it came to important things like disagreements over economic debates, then they just took their gloves off, and so right from the very beginning, the keynes-hayek debate was very sour. they were rude to each other to the extent that other academics pulled them apart and said this is not the way to condu