but what about the pele who have lttle to no value who work in t government? >> dagen, i have no problemith what you just said. >> we're talking about nonessential people. not that. and dagen, i have no problem with what you just said. we should always be prioritizing. like any good business, the government should also say, are these people essential? are they useful? and reasonable people can agree that a lot of the things that we're not doing over the past couple of weeks are things that we should be doing. and, gary, e markets spe last week. when it looked like we were getting closer to an agreement, to getting the government nning again, to avding the debt ceiling crisis, the mkets soared. >> i'm going to jump in here. because what we're really talking about, ben,s everyday people. people watching this show. were their lives changed? were their liv impacted? just like sequestration. i don't know. we might be finding out we can live with a smalr government. >> except for this. except for ths, charles, which is that the heads of every uniformed service has s