these are loans that were low documentation with high ltv's, with no income or asset verification. and it was predicated on that, that i wrote to the hud secretary and asked him if he would please discontinue championing, actually cheer leading homeownership. because at that we are very close to the edge. we were within a year or so i thought, as indicated in the letter, of a collapse in the mortgage market. >> you are within one minute of your time spent okay. having said that though, let me get back to the book. i write a monthly book review. i am looking forward to doing a book review having now read opposite very well written, easy to read, concise history. and, in fact, i will be published in the december issue of mortgage banking magazine. with that, let me turn it over to ed. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, alex. thank you for arranging this book session, and thank you, bob, for an excellent book but i really enjoyed reading it and like alex, i learned a lot. of the history going all the way back to the beginning to i knew some of it but learned lots more. thank you, t