and one wonderful difference between the two of them is for lubya... her family would listen to the voice of america with the faucets running so the neighbors couldn't hear and he was pretty much aware of the sham exterior before some of his other classmates. for lubya it was pashg and glas most under gosh check that in her 18 everything was told that she was taught. it was a shock. she did go through the most profound transitions during the changes. >> brown: i want to ask you professionally as a filmmaker. what do you look for in trying to tell a story? what does it have to have? >> well, with this kind of story where so much is based on the characters, the five people of the film, you look for... you look at them and are they good storytellers? are they open? >> they're the storytellers. >> they really are and the story is made up of interviews and conversations with them. i tried very much to make them very informal. it feels more like sitting at someone's table but it's also me observing them as a fly on the wall. so i first found the couple and f

and one wonderful difference between the two of them is for lubya... her family would listen to the voice of america with the faucets running so the neighbors couldn't hear and he was pretty much aware of the sham exterior before some of his other classmates. for lubya it was pashg and glas most under gosh check that in her 18 everything was told that she was taught. it was a shock. she did go through the most profound transitions during the changes. >> brown: i want to ask you professionally as a filmmaker. what do you look for in trying to tell a story? what does it have to have? >> well, with this kind of story where so much is based on the characters, the five people of the film, you look for... you look at them and are they good storytellers? are they open? >> they're the storytellers. >> they really are and the story is made up of interviews and conversations with them. i tried very much to make them very informal. it feels more like sitting at someone's table but it's also me observing them as a fly on the wall. so i first found the couple and f