york,g me now from new our editor at large, cory johnson, and bloomberg entertainment reporter, lucas shaw>> les moonves talked a lot about it. advertising sales are up 31%. john chen: those are -- lucas: those are huge numbers. even if you take the super bowl out of the equation, it is still pretty impressive, when you consider readings are down in every tv network. emily: it is interesting, because cbs is exploring strategic options around the radio division. it is certainly an interesting thing they are looking about -- looking at. it is also just as interesting when you look at, as lucas was just talking about, the network thing was unexpected. there has been such a deterioration across the line for this business. that 14% rise year-over-year specificallyvery in their television business, which was most of the revenues. it is a place where they are expecting to see some weakness. but this was so much better than anyone else, 14% year-over-year growth is a powerful number for these guys, in their most important business. and this is at a time when others are hurting. lucas: you brought

emily: cory, you're sticking with me, lucas shaw, thank you so much. do want to take about at the -- etsy for a moment. shares gaining an extended trading, after posting a surprise profit. earnings per share of one cents, while analysts had expected a loss of three cents. they have been offering paid services to sellers. but they still have a long way to go before winning back investors. the stock had fallen more than 60% over the year before tuesday's close. now, cory, i do want to pick your brain a little about apple, a stock on the move. shares rallying today to snap and eight day slide. but it is in serious decline. over the last eight days, apple saw more than $74 million of its market cap of february. it remains on pace to the the biggest decline since the financial crisis. what is your outlook for apple? are they rising because they are so cheap? cory: i don't do stock prediction, people will pay what they are going to pay. but it is true that there is a different narrative going around wall street about apple and how the company is managed. i t

carol massar and i spoke to reporters lucas shaw. frustrated that they have these large i.t. in libraries that they cannot seamlessly sync itunes and apple music. one of the first thoughts was, ok, this is apple, why can i go between one or the other? also, apple is supposed to get these things right. i would say the product is -- one of the flaws -- i would say the product is one of the flaws. plus, 12 million users is not enough. most people thought it was going to be a home run. they had several million credit cards on file, why don't they have 20 million subscribers? carol: they came out with itunes and changed the whole way we access music, right? we assumed they would do this well. but they didn't. now they have to rework it. lucas: they don't really deny the problems. they know that there are issues. we had started off writing a story much about a culture clash within apple between the camp that came over from beats. it seemed -- it is not so surprising that would be a clash. but it was extremely acrimonious and lasted for a lo