. >> .you read a poem by luci shaw called "december". >> mm-hm. >> .and then you signed off with your -- with your standard end. >> mm-hm. >> .which i thought was you know the classic five minutes; just perfect and it set my day off right. you've been doing this for a long time. >> have been. >> yeah. >> i like that poem by luci shaw because in the last lines she had a.a.a snow shovel, the sound of a snow shovel across concrete. >> mm-hm. >> .and.and tossing its light load onto a.onto a drift. i just felt there were a lot of people around the country who needed that poem, people in austin, texas. >> [chuckles] >> .and people in georgia and florida, hawaii. it's a beautiful sound, that scrape. >> we don't hear that sound very much though. >> .that scrape of the shovel. >> yeah, yeah. occasionally but not often. >> so it meant a lot to me and.and the fact that tom wolfe had gotten his doctorate in literature and then he went into the newspaper business! >> what was he thinking? >> what a.what a great career move that he. [laughter] >> yeah [chuckles]. >> .he made there. i mean what woul