lucian standing on one leg like a stork. and all the people were saying that's freud's grandson! and lucian, standing on one leg, and rather disturbed when we came and disrupted this great sort of effect he was having on the bar. >> charlie: it was a life-long friendship and correspondence? >> life-long friendship. i lived in france for a long time but didn't see him for ten years at a time. right at the end of my life i saw a lot of him and he did a portrait of me. >> charlie: the end of his life? >> the end of his life. because he always wanted to do my portrait. we had been talking about it for years. he said, how long ca can you ben london? i said, i can spare nine or ten days but i have to get back to work. he said, i'll try to do a portrait. i've never done anything so quickly. promise to come every day for nine days, and i did. he came back from new york with tiny canvass. one of them was to paint the queen on. he rehearsed a little bit on me. i sat there for nine mornings in a row and, as he did the last brush stroke, the cab was outside waiting to take me to the airport.

. >> it was one of the most interesting days of my life where i went to meet lucian freud and we metthe studio and you were there. we had lunch the three of us and just the most engaging conversation with an artist i've ever had. we went back to the studio and i pleaded italian late that we should have a conversation. it, we've about talked about it, and he said i can't do it. but it was a wonderful evening. thist to begin with relationship between the two of you. you were working with his dealer. in london, i had studied painting. i had a job three mornings a week. that's how i met lucian. tookthe first meeting, he my phone number and he phoned me every morning. he was interested in people. he would want to know everything about that person. and then james came to the end of the agreement. a great new york dealer. >> what would you do for him? run aroundry much or boy. it getting paint, get the canvases, set him up to paint. he was very keen on writing notes to people and i would go turn it by hand. we would have breakfast in the morning and then lunch. and i wouldsporadic be there