michael amylon, professor at lucille packard children's hospital. it's a little more informal setting. >> cheryl: i've been going there for years and years and it's very special place? >> it actually is. it's a whole lot more fun being at camps than at the hospitals and for the families, its healing environment. >> kyle you who have done bone donor transplants. what is it like for them? >> a child that has a disease, it makem eligible for a transplant, you know it's a serious issue and the family, some of the things david mentioned it turns your life upside-down. everything revolves around the illness and there is a fear that no parent wants to face. it's probably the worst nightmare, is having a child with such a life-threatening illness. >> is transplant a last resort? >> for some diseases it's the first treatment we offer. that is often when there is no alternative. it's an intense processes and requires a lot of time in the hospital. there is a lot of side effects and a lot of medications that you can take for months and months. so certainly isn