that's something we have a lucks rye -- luxury of here in bay area. in the bay area we have a high degree of literacy and interaction with books and reading and something we take grant. i'm wondering if each of you can talk a little bit about the kinds of programs you offer and the ways the people interact with your books and reading and what that does for folks. howard talk about some of the programs at the jewish community library and then we can ask vivian. >> sure. from any angle i don't -- my angle i don't take it for granted that we can read. time and technology has an impact on the way woe read meaningfully. at the library -- we read mean fully. at the library we try to promote book groups and promote people getting together to talk >> rea hn. kids, 5 and under. p. j. library wants to enhance sacred time of parents reading to kids at bedtime. that's why we call it p. j. and reenforce the content with stories. jewish values are values people can relate to and when you read to a child you're connecting with them in a different way. it's important