now to analyze the coverage, ben domenech, editor at large for the spectator, and in phoenix, lucy caldwelldviser to renew america. ben with, what do you make of the tone of the media coverage now that donald trump is up against the wall having to put, if he can, half a billion dollars in this civil fraud case? >> i think it's been very unserious andal it kind of indicates, you know, as you said in your opening there, there's been no limit to the amount of glee on the part of a lot of trump critics and the pundit -- howard: they are loving in this. >> they are absolutely loving it, and they have visions, i think, of some kind of permanent padlock on trump tower or something like that. that's not the way this is going to play out. i have news for you here, i think this is going to be something that that, you know, we've seen at every point the thing that the resistance kind of crowd wanted the most has backfired or has helped donald trump. they were looking forward to the mug shot, for instance. they were is so eager for that. and then it ended up becoming kind of a meme, an iconic kind of i