at that time lucy clark gordy was general counsel for north america. so again, in april 2013, almost the same time that you had this bombshell locked where digiorgio was confronted with a basic engineering task that had been done, showing the switches have been twitched out and changed and the part had been changed and once again you are one about punitive damages. >> that is correct. >> so you have a legal obligation to report it liabilities to the securities and exchange commission. did you ever do that about this issue remapped. >> on the issue of this? >> on the issue of the surrounding it. have you ever reported it to the fcc? >> not up until the time that this became known. >> i'm talking about from the time that i knew and excluding that, no, we have not. >> subsequent to that we may have made a filing about the ignition switch recall and that is correct. >> and what about the legal obligation to inform the board of directors. were they aware that you they were telling you this car would cost the punitive damages? >> they were not. >> and what a