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. >> andres lubitz received some training at a lufthansa facility. he began to learn commercial aviation until 2030. >> the search for answers led investigators to answers for the co-pilot's home. police were seen taking several boxes. at this point we don't know what they found. as paul beban reports. a clearer picture of the co-pilot is coming into focus. >> a young pilot that likes to run and live a quiet live. the little we have learnt makes the question at the heart of the disaster puzzling. if prosecutors are correct and andres lubitz flew flight 924 into the side of the mountain why would he a done it. andres lubitz started working for the german wing out of flight school. he had flown for 18 months without incident. the c.e.o. said andres lubitz had taken a break in training in 2008. he passed the tests and was fit to fly. >> i want to mention this. after qualifications were checked again. he took up the training. following that he took the tests. he was 100% no nigh without limitations. the local government said andres lubitz passed a securi
. >> andres lubitz received some training at a lufthansa facility. he began to learn commercial aviation until 2030. >> the search for answers led investigators to answers for the co-pilot's home. police were seen taking several boxes. at this point we don't know what they found. as paul beban reports. a clearer picture of the co-pilot is coming into focus. >> a young pilot that likes to run and live a quiet live. the little we have learnt makes the question at the heart of...
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. >> we are learning that lubitz trained in a facility at arizona in 2008. lufthansa owns that training facile facility, and lufthansa has trained all of its pilots there for the past 40 years. >> none of what he said was try, and that is why i posted the video. >> and next, a local restaurant fights back after a bad yelp review, and how they order up some reveng. >>> she is considered one of the most powerful women on wall street, and you will be surprised how much money google paid to get her on their team. >>> and how the white house plans to fight some new regulations. >>> and we are now looking at drizzle across the golden gate bridge bridge. we will tell you how this is going to affect our forecast tomorrow. >>> get up to the minute news on "today in the bay." >>> how far will some restaurants go to prove a bad yellp review is wrong? a millbrae restaurant went to great length s tos to do that. ian kole has the surveillance video. >> reporter: what does one little review mean to a small business? one for a little restaurant like wonderful in millbrae apparently a
. >> we are learning that lubitz trained in a facility at arizona in 2008. lufthansa owns that training facile facility, and lufthansa has trained all of its pilots there for the past 40 years. >> none of what he said was try, and that is why i posted the video. >> and next, a local restaurant fights back after a bad yelp review, and how they order up some reveng. >>> she is considered one of the most powerful women on wall street, and you will be surprised how much...
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we know he resumed his training at the lufthansa training facility in the united states in phoenix.s tonight. what more have you been able to learn about this crucial point? this break in co-pilots training. >> reporter: it's the kind of thing we talked to trainer who trained here. he said that's what made the hairs stand up on the back of his neck. the fact someone would leave their training which is highly unusual according to this former lufthansa pilot trainer. some internal memos sent to german authorities that state talk about that depressive episode and goes onto say he left around the same time he stalled or stopped or suspended his training which is around 2009. he was out for about a year for treatment. those are big statements that could have a lot of meaning if those documents are the real deal. they have the documents. we have not heard from lufthansa or the prosecutors. they have not commented on any of that reporting at this point. >> it's a stunning revelation. i know you said you talked to someone who trained lufthansa pilots. what was the training like. my understa
we know he resumed his training at the lufthansa training facility in the united states in phoenix.s tonight. what more have you been able to learn about this crucial point? this break in co-pilots training. >> reporter: it's the kind of thing we talked to trainer who trained here. he said that's what made the hairs stand up on the back of his neck. the fact someone would leave their training which is highly unusual according to this former lufthansa pilot trainer. some internal memos...
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we know for a fact one of the things they'll try to do is talk to the lufthansa training facility, talkple there to see if they can provide any information about perhaps the mindset indicating anything wrong with this pilot. >> and that is something the fbi is going to do here at home. beyond the fbi, we know the nsa and other intelligence agencies have databases that capture a lot of foreign communications, which has been something of a controversy in germany and other parts of europe. now those databases are going to come in handy because you're going to have analysts poring over them. >> tom, evan just laid out some of the possibilities there. you have been on the inside for investigations like this. now you have the information from investigators that they believe the co-pilot deliberately crashed this plane. what is it you are doing right now? tracing his last steps over the last few days? what's the key here? >> i'd like to add that the request for the fbi, that's just a formality. the fbi's already been working with the authorities. it has a large office in paris, berlin and madr
we know for a fact one of the things they'll try to do is talk to the lufthansa training facility, talkple there to see if they can provide any information about perhaps the mindset indicating anything wrong with this pilot. >> and that is something the fbi is going to do here at home. beyond the fbi, we know the nsa and other intelligence agencies have databases that capture a lot of foreign communications, which has been something of a controversy in germany and other parts of europe....
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lufthansa has a facility down there and we know that the fbi is planning to go talk to the people there to see if anybody trained him, any students or perhaps anybody who may have noticed anything who now has something to draw on. >> trying to track red flags on e-mail or somewhere online, that's something intelligence agencies can do sooner rather than later. >> right. exactly. and the fbi is going to draw not only on its resources, but its ability to get access to e-mail, for example, if he was using an e-mail service that's based in the united states but u.s. intelligence agencies right about now, i bet you germans are going to be happy the nsa does scooping of foreign communications. germans, that was controversial for the last couple of years in light of edward snowden but now something that's probably helpful for them to see whether he had contact with anybody that, did the fbi or nsa or any intelligence agency think is of concern? and whether there's any communications that could indicate, you know, what his mental state a month ago or the past couple of days, any clues to pick u
lufthansa has a facility down there and we know that the fbi is planning to go talk to the people there to see if anybody trained him, any students or perhaps anybody who may have noticed anything who now has something to draw on. >> trying to track red flags on e-mail or somewhere online, that's something intelligence agencies can do sooner rather than later. >> right. exactly. and the fbi is going to draw not only on its resources, but its ability to get access to e-mail, for...
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he began training with lufthansa in 2008 including time at this facility in phoenix. he was certified as a co-pilot in september 2013 but accumulated only 630 flight hours until officials say he deliberately crashed flight 9525 into the side of a mountain, killing everyone on board. no one saw it coming. he had no criminal record, no known terrorist connection. >> he passed all tests because nobody gets into the cockpit without passing the tests. >> reporter: lufthansa says lubitz took a break from flight school in 2009. it hasn't said why. but the ceo of their subsidiary germanwings told nbc news he was readmitted a few months later after passing technical, medical and psychological tests. today, investigators searched his parents home in montabaur, removing items that appear to be a computer and escorting out an unidentified person. boxes of potential evidence were taken from lubitz's dusseldorf apartment. those who knew him were stunned. "knowing andreis a," he said, "this is inconceivable to me." lufthansa stood by its training and testing procedures. so you're co
he began training with lufthansa in 2008 including time at this facility in phoenix. he was certified as a co-pilot in september 2013 but accumulated only 630 flight hours until officials say he deliberately crashed flight 9525 into the side of a mountain, killing everyone on board. no one saw it coming. he had no criminal record, no known terrorist connection. >> he passed all tests because nobody gets into the cockpit without passing the tests. >> reporter: lufthansa says lubitz...
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he began training with lufthansa in 2008 including time at this facility in phoenix. he was certified as a copilot in september 2013 but accumulated only 630 flight hours until officials say he deliberately crashed flight 9525 into the side of a mountain killing everyone on board. no one saw it coming. he had no criminal record no known terrorist connections. lufthansa said lubitz took a break from flight school in 2009. it hasn't said why. the ceo of their subsidiary germanwings said he was remitted a few months later after passing technical, medical, and psychological tests. investigators searched his parents' home, removing items including what appeared to be a computer, and escorting out an unidentified person. boxes of potential evidence were taken from lubitz's dusseldorf apartment. those who knew him were stunned. >> nbc's katy tur reporting. >>> the building explosion in new york city, this morning the fire is still not under control. the blast inside a sushi restaurant ripped apart a five-story building in the east village. smoke quickly filled the sky on the
he began training with lufthansa in 2008 including time at this facility in phoenix. he was certified as a copilot in september 2013 but accumulated only 630 flight hours until officials say he deliberately crashed flight 9525 into the side of a mountain killing everyone on board. no one saw it coming. he had no criminal record no known terrorist connections. lufthansa said lubitz took a break from flight school in 2009. it hasn't said why. the ceo of their subsidiary germanwings said he was...
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he began training with lufthansa in 2008 including time at this facility in phoenix. he was certified as a co-pilot in september 2013 but accumulated only 630 flight hours until officials say he deliberately crashed flight 9525 into the side of a mountain killing everyone on board. no one saw it coming. he had no criminal record, no known terrorist connections. >> he passed all tests because nobody gets into the cockpit without passing the tests. >> reporter: lufthansa says lubitz took a break from flight school in 2009. it hasn't said why. but the ceo of their subsidiary germanwings, told nbc news he was readmitted a few months later after passing technical, medical, and psychological tests. today investigators searched his parents' home removing items, including what appeared to be a computer and escorting out an unidentified person. boxes of potential evidence were taken from lubitz's dusseldorf apartment. those who knew him were stunned. >> translator: knowing andreas, he said this is inconceivable to me. >> reporter: lufthansa stood by its training. >> i wish you
he began training with lufthansa in 2008 including time at this facility in phoenix. he was certified as a co-pilot in september 2013 but accumulated only 630 flight hours until officials say he deliberately crashed flight 9525 into the side of a mountain killing everyone on board. no one saw it coming. he had no criminal record, no known terrorist connections. >> he passed all tests because nobody gets into the cockpit without passing the tests. >> reporter: lufthansa says lubitz...
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lufthansa has their training facility in arizona. they send their new pilot training hires here to fly and get all of their ratings and then they go back to germany and are qualified on a particular aircraft. and while you can deal with students on a daily basis and evaluate them you're going through so many students, and the instructors aren't really trained to do psychological profiling of any of these folks. the key here is when i did silk air, one of the things that we listened for on the cockpit voice recorder was a change in character. in this particular instance it was the captain. on that particular day he was doing things that were totally out of character for him. he was saying things to the other crew members that was totally out of character when we started to do a background check, so that particular day things weren't as rote as they had been in the past. that's what tipped us off that something else was going on and i would suspect that investigators will do the same thing with the co-pilot from the cbr. >> we have inv
lufthansa has their training facility in arizona. they send their new pilot training hires here to fly and get all of their ratings and then they go back to germany and are qualified on a particular aircraft. and while you can deal with students on a daily basis and evaluate them you're going through so many students, and the instructors aren't really trained to do psychological profiling of any of these folks. the key here is when i did silk air, one of the things that we listened for on the...
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spent a year-and-a-half in psychiatric treatment, listed as being unable to fly at the lufthansa training facilityly was demoted a couple times during thhis training. was well noted in his file at lufthansa. yet somehow it is reported that he hid his illness from his employers and it was way worse than they knew. >> he had to be retrained and in fact was deemed fit to fly. >> that was a couple of years ago. >> yeah. apparently he was engaged to be married and that relationship recently ended. we haven't heard from the alleged fiance or anything in that regard. but those are reports. >> it was bad enough that he had to take a break from his training six years ago but he was back on track. i know a lot of you listening right now might have somebody in your family suffering from depression. we don't want to label depression as somebody who will be a danger to himself or others, but he has this in his background concerning enough for him to stop the training. with 630 hours of flying time, he had a very significant position at a very significant airline. however, i'm wondering if the pilot knew that a
spent a year-and-a-half in psychiatric treatment, listed as being unable to fly at the lufthansa training facilityly was demoted a couple times during thhis training. was well noted in his file at lufthansa. yet somehow it is reported that he hid his illness from his employers and it was way worse than they knew. >> he had to be retrained and in fact was deemed fit to fly. >> that was a couple of years ago. >> yeah. apparently he was engaged to be married and that relationship...
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you can see the lufthansa plane about to take off. and the facilitye air training from arizona. and 20 miles west of phoenix in the arizona desert. it is the pilots come here and we know the co-pilot of the germanwings airplane was at this facility four and half months back in 2008. they fran in europe and this center in arizona and it appears they spend four and half months here in goodyear arizona training in this facility. the staff here is not telling us much about the co-pilot's time. you may be able it hear about the take off and some are landing here in the training center. it appears that the staff here is just stunned by what has happen in europe, and jenna, they tell us that the pilot was 100 able to fly. >> and that is from our fox affiliate in arizona. thank you. >> how about annoying co-workers and maybe relationship problems and now there is a place to gripe about all of it. whisper an app that lets users anonymously share their secrets with millions of people. checking with douglas kennedy. >> whisper said it is correcting a major flaw
you can see the lufthansa plane about to take off. and the facilitye air training from arizona. and 20 miles west of phoenix in the arizona desert. it is the pilots come here and we know the co-pilot of the germanwings airplane was at this facility four and half months back in 2008. they fran in europe and this center in arizona and it appears they spend four and half months here in goodyear arizona training in this facility. the staff here is not telling us much about the co-pilot's time. you...
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it is still unclear why exactly lubitz took time off for training back in 2008 at a facility in arizona. the lufthansae went back finished his training and was 100% fit to fly. still, a lot of questions here. >> certainly are. we are presumably going to be getting more answers fairly soon. pamela, thanks very much. joining us right now, once again, our aviation analyst, former ntsb managing director peter goelz, our aviation analyst miles o'brien and alistair rosenshine aviation consultant former airline pilot. also the aviation journalist clive irving contributor to the daily beast. peter, how common or uncommon is it for a pilot to be deemed unfit to fly or to work? >> well you mean -- are you asking where he declares himself unfit or -- >> no a doctor declares him unfit to work. >> it is not all that common. the question is if a doctor did that was he under obligation to tell anyone else or was this simply a diagnosis or a decision given to the patient and the patient was under the obligation to bring it to his employer. >> let me ask alistair. are the pilots themselves required to report that the
it is still unclear why exactly lubitz took time off for training back in 2008 at a facility in arizona. the lufthansae went back finished his training and was 100% fit to fly. still, a lot of questions here. >> certainly are. we are presumably going to be getting more answers fairly soon. pamela, thanks very much. joining us right now, once again, our aviation analyst, former ntsb managing director peter goelz, our aviation analyst miles o'brien and alistair rosenshine aviation...
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he started training with lufthansa in 2008 including time at this facility in phoenix. in 2013 he got his commercial pilot's license but accumulated only 630 flight hours until officials say he put this airbus into an eight-minute controlled dive that ended with the plane slamming into the french alps. despite this the ceo of lufthansa subsidiary germanwings told me there were no red flags. >> were there any reports that there was something wrong with him? >> we don't have any of those reports. >> that was nbc's katy tur reporting. >>> bringing in former ntsb investigator greg feith. new developments we're learning about the copilot and his medical story this morning. >> reporter: i think it's starting to focus and shape where the investigation is going to go. one of the big issues we had early on was a concern for whether this was, you know a greater plan part of a greater plan. was this "terrorism." now it looks like this is isolated to this young man, and some of the personal issues that ma have been going on his, life-altering events that keeps it within a very smal
he started training with lufthansa in 2008 including time at this facility in phoenix. in 2013 he got his commercial pilot's license but accumulated only 630 flight hours until officials say he put this airbus into an eight-minute controlled dive that ended with the plane slamming into the french alps. despite this the ceo of lufthansa subsidiary germanwings told me there were no red flags. >> were there any reports that there was something wrong with him? >> we don't have any of...
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and age, and even particularly with this case because lufthansa was on notice back when this young man was training in arizona at their medical facility that he had mental problems. you foe, he took off three months because of, we believe, depression, maybe even longer and then came back to complete his flight training. lufthansa had access to all that information at that time. but now going forward it would seem to me that the airlines really should be bringing the medical evaluation, the physical and the mental more in-house so that they can directly supervise and ensure that the people that are flying the airplanes are competent both physically and mentally. >> as we're learning especially in this case being physically competent is as important as being mentally competent, maybe mentally more so in this case. i want to get to the next question in terms of liability here. obviously the laws are very different, there's treaties that cover aircraft crash liability. at this point, though, you would have to think that proving the fact be that lufthansa was negligent in some way based on simply the information we know now, much less what
and age, and even particularly with this case because lufthansa was on notice back when this young man was training in arizona at their medical facility that he had mental problems. you foe, he took off three months because of, we believe, depression, maybe even longer and then came back to complete his flight training. lufthansa had access to all that information at that time. but now going forward it would seem to me that the airlines really should be bringing the medical evaluation, the...
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press conference with the lufthansa executive was the fact that the copilot andreas, he trained in goodyear, arizona. he was there for four months. we should say that that facilityt picking up the phone calls of fox producers right now. we're hearing here in shock that a pilot they trained recently, we should say, what, four years ago, did something like this. there's footage of that goodyear, arizona, facility. should they have caught the fact that he might have had issues? >> that's kind of hard when there's a student pilot nervous. but, cheryl, these low-cost carriers that are sprouting up everywhere especially in europe to answer to ryanair, these low-cost carriers. they don't have all the steps that we do in major us carriers. and my fear is that, as you know, ryanair wants to come to us right now, which is a low-cost carrier. they don't follow the rules. they don't have the experience level that our flight crews have. this fellow only had been with the airline for less than a half year. he wasn't vetted. that's the scary part. >> yeah, 600 hours, ron. >> yeah. oh, boy. >> 600 hours experience. i have pilots that have -- >> i have copilots that have 10,000,
press conference with the lufthansa executive was the fact that the copilot andreas, he trained in goodyear, arizona. he was there for four months. we should say that that facilityt picking up the phone calls of fox producers right now. we're hearing here in shock that a pilot they trained recently, we should say, what, four years ago, did something like this. there's footage of that goodyear, arizona, facility. should they have caught the fact that he might have had issues? >> that's...
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the other pilot is out, using the facilities or restroom or doing something else in the back of the aircraft. that's the way it should be working. but again, what lufthansa does, versus united, or anybody else, it's all based on their internal protocols. but there were means to be able to get in and out of the cockpit through normal means. but there's also a security feature on that door as well. >> just to make clear here what the stakes are in terms of how people think about the awfulness of what happened here, and the culpability, if there were in fact, if there were a protocol that required a flight attendant to get into that cockpit when one of the pilots left to use the restroom, if that were followed, again, we don't know, but if that were followed, as you have two people in the cockpit, neither of whom are responding, that would lead you to believe there was some kind of catastrophic loss of pressure or something that rendered those folks unconscious, as opposed to some sinister intentional descent being engineered by the remaining pilot. >> well, we have to be careful, chris, only because whatever would have happened to those two folks in the co
the other pilot is out, using the facilities or restroom or doing something else in the back of the aircraft. that's the way it should be working. but again, what lufthansa does, versus united, or anybody else, it's all based on their internal protocols. but there were means to be able to get in and out of the cockpit through normal means. but there's also a security feature on that door as well. >> just to make clear here what the stakes are in terms of how people think about the...
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facility in good year a suburb phoenix. one of several locations around the world but the only one in the us where lufthansa trains pilots toet their pilot licenses german pilots have to train here for about four and a half months. >>> we take a live look at the philadelphia international airport crash is most certainly on the minds of travelers here. in the united states jeff cole just touched on we do have procedures in place post 9/11 that might have prevented the crash of the germanwings flight. fox 29's karen schep at the airport with that part of our story. karen? >> reporter: lucy that's exactly right. a lot of nerves on edge at philadelphia international airport. touched on this exactly. we have many different things that are different here than are different from what is europe. here's what aviation experts have to say. >> i'm even more anxious. >> it is a nerve racking time to be a traveler but current commercial pilot herb hortman says in this country there's always a safety person or a babysitter who steps into the cockpit if the pilot needs to step out. >> the reason they are in the cockpit primarily is when th
facility in good year a suburb phoenix. one of several locations around the world but the only one in the us where lufthansa trains pilots toet their pilot licenses german pilots have to train here for about four and a half months. >>> we take a live look at the philadelphia international airport crash is most certainly on the minds of travelers here. in the united states jeff cole just touched on we do have procedures in place post 9/11 that might have prevented the crash of the...
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facility in good year that's a suburb of phoenix. and this is one of several locations around the world but the only one in this country where lufthansapilots. many air travelers are wondering how this could have happened and if it could happen here in the united states. >> u.s. airlines follows strict security procedures ensuring no one is left alone in a cockpit. fox 29 weekend's karen hepp delves 92 exactly what is supposed to happen in our skies. >> the united states for us to leave the cockpit we have to get a babysitter for lack of better terms into the cockpit which typically is a flight attendant or another pilot that may be dead heading or non traveling. >> herb hortman runs an aviation school and is a commercial pilot pilot. he says, the safety person keeps watch on both the pilot flying and the pilot returning to make sure they're not under any duress when they call on the phone first and then punch in electronic code to re-enter. >> if we do not want to allow somebody into the cockpit we have a single button we can push which hard locks the door so the door cannot be opened in either direction for a long period of time. >>
facility in good year that's a suburb of phoenix. and this is one of several locations around the world but the only one in this country where lufthansapilots. many air travelers are wondering how this could have happened and if it could happen here in the united states. >> u.s. airlines follows strict security procedures ensuring no one is left alone in a cockpit. fox 29 weekend's karen hepp delves 92 exactly what is supposed to happen in our skies. >> the united states for us to...
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facility itself exactly where he trained. they are not speaking to us today. we know they have their flags flying at half staff. it's the german flag, a lufthansaflag off flying at half staff here today obviously if memory of those who have lost their lives in this terrible tragedy. we do know that he came here to train as do other pilots from around the world. erin. >> i guess the question i have is he was there for six months because that's the length of the training program but he didn't do that consecutively. he took a break. that could be significant. do you have any idea as to why he took that break? >> reporter: that's one of the questions that investigators are really trying focus in on and figure out. we do not know the why. we know that he did take a break in his training. we don't know if he took break in training here or in germany. we know he finished and he was 100% ready to go according to the ceo. he passed medical tests and technical tests and he was a full flejdged pilot and take the reigns. investigators have to figure out what that is and if that has any link to any other issues he may have been having which may have caused
facility itself exactly where he trained. they are not speaking to us today. we know they have their flags flying at half staff. it's the german flag, a lufthansaflag off flying at half staff here today obviously if memory of those who have lost their lives in this terrible tragedy. we do know that he came here to train as do other pilots from around the world. erin. >> i guess the question i have is he was there for six months because that's the length of the training program but he...