out whether there is support beyond new electricity standards or on the republican side what senator lugar has called for, diversity standards calling for things like nuclear plants that capture and store their emissions. . you have to have some powerful fuel or diesel engines for your trains and stuff like that. why in the world do we have 12 million vehicles in the world run on natural gas and only 170,000 in the u.s.? why are we not using this natural gas? i hope this is in the energy policy. i think the cap and tax will ruin this country. any tax on oil or coal will drive this further down into a depression. host: is that part of the senate bill? guest: we do not know. there are a couple of proposals -- there are a couple of ways it can end up on the floor. they could persuade the democratic colleagues to include it in the underlying bill that goes to the floor. it sounds like that is what they are hoping for what they would like. if they cannot get that, there is also the possibility that they could get it added as an amendment. the underlying energy bill may housethings like green ha

what is senator levin -- senator lugar going to do? what is -- what the people in the middle to is where it will be made or broken. >> that her mind the -- that reminds me of something said earlier. it used to be regional, and now it is partisan. when you talk about individual votes, you have to think about corn in the midwest, royalties and the gulf coast, -- royalties in the gulf coast, and other sorts of energy projects, including home state jobs. that is how you win over votes. that is how they broke through last night on financial reform. digital will carve out four massachusetts banks -- they did a little cart veout for massachusetts' banks. they need to buy off a few. what are some of these home state issues we could see emerge? >> david, you're familiar with this. how do you get lugar, collins, a gulf state senator? >> again, i think, the larger issues are still in footfall. while it is true that the middle will be the ones that decide, if there is also a question of what the senators who are most committed to this will accept.

this afternoon, senator richard lugar will hold a news conference to talk about his proposal. we will have the news conference on c-span3. >> tonight, efforts to expand broadband in oregon and how expansion would affect all rural states. also, the recent restructuring announcement of time warner and what it means to cable customers. >> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us from our studios in new york, andrew mccarthy, contributing editor with "and national review" and author of the new book, "the grand jihad: how islam and the left sabotage america." andrew mccarthy, you had written previously in your previous book about threats from islamic jihad. why did you return to the topic in this book? guest: the first book was about the difficulty of trying to use the criminal justice system to address what is really a national security problem. the idea behind this book was to get deeper into what the national security problem is, and try to explain that it is more extensive than just terrorism. host: you used the phrase, "the grand jihad" in your title. what does that re

there are a number of proposals, that is why senator lugar and carry both got calls. there have been ideas about increasing energy standards. the president met with business executives last week and whether questions was outcome money is not spent on research and development? the president will have a meeting next week here to work through that process going forward. >> the president supported the public option but he got 20% of+ what he wanted. >> i don't know why it would be pertinent to get into hypothetical at this point. go back to what he said and pittsburg a week and a half ago or in 2006 as a u.s. senator. his position on how to approach our energy policy comprehensively is fairly well known. >> what is bp getting as a result of the agreement? are they getting any agreement that they will not be found negligent? you said that they would use this with u.s. asset. >> they will provide assurances by setting aside 20 billion in u.s. assets. >> they have committed to 20 but they will provide insurance by setting aside assets that could tel. -- by setting aside asse

that is why senator lugar and senator kerry both got calls. there have been ideas about increasing energy efficiency standards in buildings, much as carol has worked tirelessly to do with cars, light trucks, and heavy duty trucks. the president met with business executives at the white house last week and one of their questions was like more money is not spent on research and development. there are a lot of ways to get to this. the president will have a meeting next week here to work through that process going forward. >> in comparison to the public option, where the president supported the public option and got 90 percent of what he wanted. >> it would not be pertinent to get into a hypothetical again. going back to what he said at pittsburg, what he said in 2006 as a u.s. senator. his position on how to approach our energy policy comprehensively is fairly well known. >> what is beginning as a result of this agreement? are they getting any agreement that they will not be found negligent at all? it said that bp would fund the fund with u.s. as

from connecticut, senator lieberman, senator menendez, senator kerry, senator shelby, bennett and lugar from the senate perspective who are part of drafting this bill along with our house conferees led by howard berman of california. i want to extend a special thank you to all of them for their leadership and also senator reid, the majority leader, senator mcconnell. none of this ever happens without the majority leader of the senate taking a leadership role and insisting that this matter move forward, that it be addressed before we break for the july fourth recess period coming up next week, and in the midst of all the other things we're involved in -- as my colleagues know, we have been involved in a very lengthy conference regarding financial reform, but i'm delighted to take some time out from that effort to address this particular proposal and urge our colleagues to be supportive of this proposal. i also want to support what i mentioned earlier, president obama's approach and appreciate his team's work in helping us approve this important legislation. i mentioned earlier our secret

in the meeting will be reset rakowski, republican of alaska, richard lugar, lindsey graham, and joe liebermanpublican line, go ahead. caller: i had a question. $2 billion was given to a brazilian oil company down there. i believe george soros had $900 million invested in it. if the oil wells are shut down and they move somewhere else, who take their place? guest: i think the caller has a great question. one of the concerns about an overly broad moratorium is thht these rigs, which are multimillion dollar rigs, will be moved to other parts of the world, perhaps including south america, brazil, maybe off of africa. and they will never come back. when they leave, we lose the jobs that are now held by americans that work on the rigs. we lose the jobs of all the people that work on the supply chips -- the supply ships and all of the steel manufacturing and everything associated with that industry. your point about mr. soros an illustrates the point that we have a lot at stake. we have american jobs, the american economy at stake, and if we act irrationally, if we enact an overly broad moratorium,

senator lugar is holding a press conference to put out his own blueprint on the energy situation. just another opportunity for him to get ahead of this issue. the democrats will sit silent. the republicans exploit the situation to their own advantage, it is amazing tme. sarah palin is th most vocal out there and more concerned about this by next door. host: thank you. guest: i understand his frustration. when every party is in power to the level that the democrats are, it is almost a curse. a problem you want when running for office is trying to be able to implement policy in this town but it is difficult because so much is being thrown at you. democrats are finding out what republicans found out a few yes ago. if you own everything in town it can be very difficult to get things done. you're voting base does not understand why you do not accomplish everything that you said you would accomplish. you say elect me to the house, the senate, we will deliver. republicans, democrats, they always find out that minority in our constitutional republic always has a decent amount of power. on