therefore, in public policy you have to do what i say, because this is what i believe. >> schieffer: luis cortez, reverend cortez, where do you see the line? >> well, i believe the line needs to be in a space that allows people to take their faith and put it into the public sphere, and it doesn't mean you will oppress other people with it or enenforce other people with it, but people will be allowed to share it, so my concern is, in following with richard and rabbi, is that more and more we are being told that don't -- we are being told not to bring our faith into the public sphere, as if it is a disqualifier for public discourse, which it isn't and shouldn't be. so my concern is that every year, as time goes by, the rights of the religious are being eroded under the guise of church and state. >> schieffer: andrew sullivan, you wrote this piece in newsweek, an extraordinary piece, called crisis in christianity. what did you take away from what you just heard the cardinal say? >> well, i -- my view is very similar to what rabbi wolpe said, which is i think our ability to be reasonable in politics