i remember luis gaska -- we were at some place in berkeley. it was a fund-raiser. e and played some music with snooky flowers. do you remember snooky flowers? >> a lot. >> yeah. and they said, let's go to the march. he said, let's go to the march. we all got in our cars the next morning and drove up to 99. wasn't it on 99 that they came from stockton? and i guess we joined them about 20 miles out. i made the mistake of not trying to find a bathroom first. that march was so long, because by the time i got to the gas station, the gas stations were locked up. they were not allowing anybody to make use of them. the spirit, the phenomenal spirit of the farm workers was really amazing. because here with people who had been beaten. and i mean brutalized. then they come out and they do it in a non-violent manner. cesar chavez was majestic in his leadership. a real hero. a real hero. >> talk about the gentleman we heard from just now, guy johnson, the inspiration he was in your work. >> we embarked on it as a result of guy hearing the song. he said, you have to put video on