luis lugo, why don't we start with you? >> well, i gave you a very broad picture of what's happened in terms of religion and public life in this country. that's not to say that it's been a smooth curve. there's been a lot of bumps, some pretty big bumps along the way. and it has to do with new entrants into the u.s. as a country, as a political system. again, primarily through immigration. pushing the envelope, as it were, certainly from the standpoint of the majority established community. i'll tabling one example and that's the experience of roman catholics in this country. again, because of major migrations from europe, but in that wave primarily from roman catholics countries such as ireland and italy and poland and so forth, this was profoundly unsettling to the mainstream protestant establishment and there were indeed not only tensions and conflicts but violence in places like philadelphia, for instance, where the main campus -- the original campus of my alma mater, villanova, was torched to the ground. it was in the