and luisa katherine adams who would go on to follow miss monroe, she's just not dear dolly.f course what mrs. monroe brought -- once you understand that there is this tension between ar stok and republicanism or democracy, you can see the united states wrestling with it. so when elizabeth monroe comes with her polish from the continent, she tries to set things on a more formal set of footing, on ceremony and footing, as they would say, with not great success. she didn't have that touch where dolly could really blend those two absolutely. i also have to say -- i owe this to holly schulman who will talk to you tomorrow. too much has been made of the fact thomas jefferson was a widower and dolly madison served as a stand in for him. it is true when there were ladies at the table, he would ask dolly and her sisters come in, although he had an official hostess, his daughter. concentrating or thinking about dolly as waiting in the wings obscures the fact what she was really doing during those years. thomas jefferson feared aristocracy, cut out socializing. he kept new year's and f

and luisa katherine adams who would go on to follow miss monroe, she's just not dear dolly.nce you understand there is this tension between aristocracy and republicanism or democracy, you can see the united states wrestling with it. so when eliz gettiabeth monroe with her polish from the continent, she tries to set things on a more formal set of footing, on ceremony and not great success. she didn't have that touch where dolly could really blend those tw.l@%3 absolutely. i also have to say -- i owe this to have to say and i owe this to holly, she'll be talking tomorrow, too much was made of the fact that thomas jefferson was a widower and dolley madison was a stand-in for him. it was true, when there were ladies at the table, he would ask dolley and her sisters to come in, though he had his daughter, martha jefferson randolph. but concentrating or thinking about dolley sort of waiting in the wings for the presentation of the president's mansion obscures the fact that what she was really doing during those years. thomas jefferson feared aristocracy and cut out socializing and